Second Cycle advice Sus to Tren

[kiwimuscle]

Hi Everyone, My mate got me onto Sus 250 at 1 ml (on the IM Syringe) I have had great gains and zero side effects, Iv been on this pattern for 8 weeks now and have just got a vile of Tren A75 from him. He thinks I should go straight onto it after sus, but am aware of the possibility of not taking estrogen suppresants (for lack of a better term) after the sus 250 cycle.


What do you guys think? Go onto Tren or have a break?

Also Iv read that it can induce pain in and around the injected region (for me ideally the glutes) abit green to try any where else. But what you think?

 

[mikert]

i would save it beacause of two reasons.

1.you need to run test with tren.


2.you dont have enought tren for a cycle anyways.even if you took 75mg eod which is a low dose,you only have enought for like 2.5-3 weeks which u wount even notice it till week 2

 

[kiwimuscle]

Hey man thankyou for the advice, so are you suggesting i take sus with the tren aswell?

I know I will get more Tren to make it work the full cycle, Its not so much the supply thats the problem.

Would moving straight onto Tren with Sus be a good idea? Or should I have a break?

 

[mikert]

yes take the tren with sust,even tho the sust has lon esters.if you only taking sust once or twice a week its gonna fool you up since tren has to be ran ed or eod.personally id take the sust by itself for the first 3 weeks then add tren and by the time your tren kicks in approximatly a week er so.and when you start injecting tren ed or eod just as well to mix your sus with it so it wont be so confusing.

here an example
wk1-3 500mg sust per week.
wk4-10 125mg sust eod(mixed with tren).
wk4-10 75mg tren eod.

the 125 mg sus eod will be about 433mgs a week so the difference between that an 500 is nothing to worry about.

run pct and yes wait till next cycle to start this.

one more thing tho tren aint for begginers so if you using be aware of the harsh sides.

 

[Biggin]

This cat is nowhere near ready to be running Tren, or anything for that matter. I suggest U research and learn all things concerning AAS. U askin questions that point out Ur lack of knowledge when it comes to AAS use. What are U gonna do for Pct??

 

[kiwimuscle]

Cheers for the advice man, a second opinion helps alot. Currently iv been doing the following with great results

75 mg Sust 250 twice per week for 8 weeks

I now want to add the Tren as below

75mg Sust 250 Twice per week for 8 weeks
75mg Tren EOD for 8 weeks

And as for the other guy thanks for your post bud but if Iv had great gains thus far and have done research on Tren. Iv been Body building for 3 years now so im not a beginner or a cat for that matter

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Yeah Biggin hit it on the head bro.. you need to research shit alot better before runnin anything let alone Tren.. I'm runnin it right now for the first time and that shit is bad ass...

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

lol (on the IM syringe)

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

75mg Sust 250 Twice per week for 8 weeks

 

[kiwimuscle]

Hey Newbie, who the fuck are you to comment you fat fuck, look at your stats 6'3" 227lbs and 16% Dude your a joke

 

[Shaptown]

kiwi you are treading on thin ice my friend.

 

[juced_porkchop]

you should not be using steroids at all. you dont have a clue what your doing.
you should be learning BEFORE u used AAS.
you probibly dont know what post cycle therapy (pct) is.
i just herd you mention only anti-estrogens AFTER cycle?? you use them DURING cycle not AFTER (if needed)
also tren can be very harsh and should not be used for MANY cycles say 5 or 6 min even then soem rec much more and that means YEARS down the road of aas use.

your going to hurt yourself.

and your friend is an IDEOT for giving this stuff to you!
ether he knows what id doing is wrong and is just trying make money off you OR he is just as clueless as you are (srry for being harsh)
sorry if i offend you but people like you tend to give the bad image to us that know what we are doing (for the most part)


finish the sust DO post cycle therapy (pct)!!!
AND DONT CYCLE FOR A WHILE TILL YOU LEARN.
if you did know you would not: cycle like you just did, would know about post cycle therapy (pct), would not be listing to and taking more shit you know NOTHING about from a frind (READING THE GOD DAMIN DRUG PROFILES AINT SHIT!!!) and you would noT be asking about tren.
whats your stat?
like for eg.
AGE, bodyfat%, LBS, hight, ect???



ps.16% BF IS NOT FAT 20 25 30 % ok yes.

do you even know what 16%BF looks like?
and bloated is not fat or BF. you can have low BF% and be BLOATED LIKE KERBY.

 

[kiwimuscle]

Wow thankyou juced, an amazing response. Your right I will stop using Tren. All i am doing is looking for advice like yours. Is that too much to ask, I mean what good is a resource like this unless guys/girls that are not as seasoned can ask questions and get informative replies to suppliment any reading, verbal advice. Its all helpful..Again Thankyou.

My Stats are
28 M
185 cm = 6'1"
109 kgs = 240 lbs
11% BF
100m sprint = 12.3seconds
Casual Gym goer since 12years
Playing Rugby Since 8years
Body Building for 3 years naturally

 

[Biggin]

Cheers for the advice man, a second opinion helps alot. Currently iv been doing the following with great results

75 mg Sust 250 twice per week for 8 weeks

I now want to add the Tren as below

75mg Sust 250 Twice per week for 8 weeks
75mg Tren EOD for 8 weeks

And as for the other guy thanks for your post bud but if Iv had great gains thus far and have done research on Tren. Iv been Body building for 3 years now so im not a beginner or a cat for that matter

3yrs training huh?? More than likely U look like Ur cycle, SHIT!!!!!!!

 

[juced_porkchop]

Wow thankyou juced, an amazing response. Your right I will stop using Tren. All i am doing is looking for advice like yours. Is that too much to ask, I mean what good is a resource like this unless guys/girls that are not as seasoned can ask questions and get informative replies to suppliment any reading, verbal advice. Its all helpful..Again Thankyou.

My Stats are
28 M
185 cm = 6'1"
109 kgs = 240 lbs
11% BF
100m sprint = 12.3seconds
Casual Gym goer since 12years
Playing Rugby Since 8years
Body Building for 3 years naturally

NO prob

 

[kiwimuscle]

Biggin, Your not a mozzy are ya?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Kiwi- you can make this about me if you want-but its not-its about your lack of knowledge concerning AAS.

i just dont understand how someone has the balls to get all the stuff they need and inject theirself-but they will not spend an hour learning how to cycle before they do it.

cause that is all it would take to know 150mg a week is doing nothing but suppressing your balls-and the same amount of test is prob flowing through your system at the moment-as before you started injecting yourself with exogenous test.

and then to say you have made really great gains-on a supplement dose of test? this tells me you were not working hard enough before you started either.

at least- if anything now you know-and you can get a good post cycle therapy (pct) going-learn like JP said and do it right.

 

[Biggin]

U not a dumbass are U?? U got a big mouth with a little bark, with no bite!! Might want to stay on Ur side of the street!!

 

[kiwimuscle]

well newbie thats better than just poking fun and being a dick, what did you expect me to say.."Oh Thanks!"

Biggin your a joke Short ass, Nepoleon Complex hard out! Just piss off wanker

Sheesh some people nowa days!

To eveyone else thankyou for your constructive comments from the start its very much appreciated :-D

 

[Biggin]

God knows U needed it!!