second cycle help

[bruce-mac]

alrite guys! plannin on runnin my second cycle likin to no wat yous think?
week1-4 thai dbol 40mg ed
week1-12 test enanthate 600 mg ew
week1-12 deca 400 mg ew
week 8-12 Anavar (var) 80mg ed
pct week 14-18 clomid and nolva

pervious cycle was
week1-14 test prop 150eod
week1-6 dbol 50mg ed
week10-14 Anavar (var) 60mg ed
got good gains bot 20lb, strenght went up drasticaly!

stats are:
age 22
hight 6ft
weight 192lbs
bf% roughly 11-13%
diets in good order but will b better before i start
any thing am forgetting just ask tanks in advance

 

[DADAWG]

alrite guys! plannin on runnin my second cycle likin to no wat yous think?
week1-4 thai dbol 40mg ed
week1-12 test enanthate 600 mg ew
week1-12 deca 400 mg ew
week 8-12 Anavar (var) 80mg ed
post cycle therapy (pct) week 14-18 clomid and nolva

pervious cycle was
week1-14 test prop 150eod
week1-6 dbol 50mg ed
week10-14 Anavar (var) 60mg ed
got good gains bot 20lb, strenght went up drasticaly!

stats are:
age 22
hight 6ft
weight 192lbs
bf% roughly 11-13%
diets in good order but will b better before i start
any thing am forgetting just ask tanks in advance

welcome to ology


that a lot of gear for a 2nd cycle and probablly not needed imo. also the wait for deca on post cycle therapy (pct) is 3 weeks after the last injection.


i would run just the test deca , thats a gram a week and more than enough . run the test 1 week longer than the deca and start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last test inject.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

welcome to ology


that a lot of gear for a 2nd cycle and probablly not needed imo. also the wait for deca on post cycle therapy (pct) is 3 weeks after the last injection.


i would run just the test deca , thats a gram a week and more than enough . run the test 1 week longer than the deca and start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last test inject.

I totally agree with DADAWG to much for a 2nd cycle,just run a simple one for your 2nd and then do more products for your 3rd....good luck

 

[bruce-mac]

tanks guys! so run deca until week 11 an test until week 12. i was goin to run the dbol as a kick start until da test kicks in.. wat about front loading instead??

 

[coltmc45]

welcome to ology


that a lot of gear for a 2nd cycle and probablly not needed imo. also the wait for deca on pct is 3 weeks after the last injection.


i would run just the test deca , thats a gram a week and more than enough . run the test 1 week longer than the deca and start pct 2 weeks after last test inject.

I agree also. Good advice

 

[JWS77]

alrite guys! plannin on runnin my second cycle likin to no wat yous think?
week1-4 thai dbol 40mg ed
week1-12 test enanthate 600 mg ew
week1-12 deca 400 mg ew
week 8-12 Anavar (var) 80mg ed
pct week 14-18 clomid and nolva

pervious cycle was
week1-14 test prop 150eod
week1-6 dbol 50mg ed
week10-14 Anavar (var) 60mg ed
got good gains bot 20lb, strenght went up drasticaly!

stats are:
age 22
hight 6ft
weight 192lbs
bf% roughly 11-13%
diets in good order but will b better before i start
any thing am forgetting just ask tanks in advance

That cycle looks good, for a 4th or 5th cycle. I would lose the orals tho, and stay as responsive to gear as possible by stacking slowly as you progress in cycling seeing how well each compound works for you. Drop the deca @ wk 11, then you can start pct quicker if ran to wk 12 like DADAWG said. 12wks on test @ 600mg EW & 11wks on deca @400mg EW will do wonders for you. Question: how long ago was your first cycle? and only 20lbs gained? is that 20lbs kept?

 

[bruce-mac]

i finished up on my first cycle about 5months ago. wasnt goin to start this cycle until sept time. yea sorry dat was 20lbs kept. gained about 35lb on cycle an lost about 15lb over a 2 month period. hav been sittin steadly at my current weight this past 3 months. another quick question if you go on a longer corse do more of ur gains stay??

 

[JWS77]

i finished up on my first cycle about 5months ago. wasnt goin to start this cycle until sept time. yea sorry dat was 20lbs kept. gained about 35lb on cycle an lost about 15lb over a 2 month period. hav been sittin steadly at my current weight this past 3 months. another quick question if you go on a longer corse do more of ur gains stay??

No, longer cycles do not mean more gains kept. There are some AAS that have claim more retention of muscle mass post-cycle over other AAS. PCT, natural bio-chemistry, diet/nutrition, and continued training is how you maintain gains. No need for a longer cycle in your second cycle, the advice given to you was gold. The key is maximizing your potential, with minimal gear, while keeping your natural bio-chemistry in check. It's a touch and go type of thing...keeping your tolerances to gear low.

 

[bruce-mac]

tanks guys.. i will drop da orals an run da test an deca for the 12 and 11 weeks. will hav pct in check an diet in top notch wen i start. is there nething else am missing?

 

[JWS77]

tanks guys.. i will drop da orals an run da test an deca for the 12 and 11 weeks. will hav pct in check an diet in top notch wen i start. is there nething else am missing?

Aromasin on hand for estro/andro sides. Maybe blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) after last inject thru to end of post cycle therapy (pct). Money and preparedness should never be an issue when fucking with gear so early in the game. I know deca won't aromatize, but the dbol is huge on estro/andro sides, so is 12wks on test @ 600mg, I would.

 

[Ruturaj]

use Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control estrogen and cabergoline for proctelin issue

 

[bruce-mac]

moneys not a major problem,, runnin the gear in the right way is my biggest concern an not fuckin it up say it is only my second cycle!
i wana have everything on hand just in case somthing goes wrong. al not b runnin searchin for it.
another ting guys, was talkin to a friend who did a few cycles. he tinks 11 weeks of deca is way to much, said to maybe run deca for 4 weeks an then the remaining 8 weeks run EQ?? or mayb just run a test/eq cycle?? what yous think??

 

[DADAWG]

moneys not a major problem,, runnin the gear in the right way is my biggest concern an not fuckin it up say it is only my second cycle!
i wana have everything on hand just in case somthing goes wrong. al not b runnin searchin for it.
another ting guys, was talkin to a friend who did a few cycles. he tinks 11 weeks of deca is way to much, said to maybe run deca for 4 weeks an then the remaining 8 weeks run EQ?? or mayb just run a test/eq cycle?? what yous think??

your friend is a idiot . deca is a common word used for nandrolone , deconate is the ester and deconate is one of the longest esters and takes 4-5 weeks to even really start working , thats why you wait 3 weeks after the last injection before starting post cycle therapy (pct) because its still in your system weeks after you quit taking it.

if you want to run eq then substitute it for deca from the start otherwise stick with deca from the start

 

[bruce-mac]

this is why i come to u guys!! tink i am goin to run eq from the start and drop the deca as i read it totally shuts u down an is had to recover from...
also i read you should run eq for at least 14 weeks at 600mg or higher and keep the test at least 200mg more per week?? is that right???
hows this for a new cycle:
weeks1-14 test 800-900mg pw
weeks1-14 eq 600mg pw

pct:
week 17-20 nova/clomid

 

[DADAWG]

this is why i come to u guys!! tink i am goin to run eq from the start and drop the deca as i read it totally shuts u down an is had to recover from...
also i read you should run eq for at least 14 weeks at 600mg or higher and keep the test at least 200mg more per week?? is that right???
hows this for a new cycle:
weeks1-14 test 800-900mg pw
weeks1-14 eq 600mg pw

pct:
week 17-20 nova/clomid

you do not have to run test higher than eq imo. why not do 500 mg of each for 12-15 weeks but run the test 1 week longer than the eq , start pct 2 weeks after the last test injection.

 

[bruce-mac]

you do not have to run test higher than eq imo. why not do 500 mg of each for 12-15 weeks but run the test 1 week longer than the eq , start pct 2 weeks after the last test injection.

Tanks DADAWG.. 500 mg it is! be another few weks before i start anyway. just wanted to hav every thing sorted! goin to hav an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand. if i blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) how much will b enough?

 

[DADAWG]

Tanks DADAWG.. 500 mg it is! be another few weks before i start anyway. just wanted to hav every thing sorted! goin to hav an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand. if i blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) how much will b enough?

never blasted Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) personally . i prefer the old 400-500 iu per week to PREVENT testicular atrophy method.

 

[bruce-mac]

never blasted Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) personally . i prefer the old 400-500 iu per week to PREVENT testicular atrophy method.

is that ever week from week 1 or just from the week of my last shot?

 

[DADAWG]

is that ever week from week 1 or just from the week of my last shot?

start around weeks 2-3 imo and run to 3 days before pct starts.