Second Cycle Options & Opinions

[Machet3]

Hello!

I'm planning to do my second cycle somewhere after the summer. My first cycle was a standard 1-4-dbol / 1-10-test e cycle along with aromasin which I didn't use.
I quit this cycle in week 7 because my gear was bunk/underdosed. My dbol was probably metyltest and my test e salad oil. Not impressed at all.

So my stats are: 23,5y, 6' , 207lbs, 15%bf, Give or take.

I got a pretty big budget for this cycle. I am planning to get 30ml of Test prop and 20ml of Tren A (this bastard is pretty expensive).
Why test prop?: Faster results, faster notice if gear is gtg (instead boring 4weeks wait)
Why tren ace?: I think this compound will give me everything I need to reach my personal goals (I'm aware of sides which I think i can handle)
Ok, for this I know you can go ED (more shots, better levels) OR EOD (50% less pinning, possible more sides??). Either one, I'm leaning to EOD. Look below:

ED injects:

1-8 Test prop 50 MG ED = 350mg/w
1-6 Tren Ace 50MG ED > 25mg on sundays = 325mg/w

Total injected: 28ml in 56 shots
Total Tren ace: 19.5ml in 56 shots = 112 total shots

OR

EOD injects

1-8 Test prop 100mg EOD
1-7 Tren Ace 75mg EOD

Total injected: 28ml in 28 shots
Total Tren ace: 18.75ml in 25 shots = 53 total shots

During cycle
1-8 Aromasin 12.5mg ED or EOD (will see)
1-x Caber .25mg e3d Mon/Thurs OR Bromo 2.5mg ed (source depended)

PCT
(3 days after last pin)
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20
(maybe double both first week, will see)

Now, I know some of the people here will say 'you are too young'. I appreciate your kindness, I really do.
Anyway nothing is decided yet, could also go with a 'boring' prop/tbol cycle.

Thanks for the read & time.

 

[MickeyKnox]

I would recommend you go EOD and not change your dosing protocol.

Do NOT skip your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) this time around. Dose your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) correctly you may find you do not need a dopamine agonist. I recently ran 700mg Tren Ace with 150mg Prop per wk and did not require any Caber or Bromo or any anything else beyond a proper Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Control your E2 and you should be fine as it is very difficult for prolactin to survive without high levels of estrogen.

PCT is fine.

Good luck.

 

[Machet3]

Thanks for the input MK, appreciate it.

AI will be used properly because I expect no $hit gear with my new source.
Will get one two just in case. Only not sure if I run it from day 1 or when problems start to occure. Opinions vary + everyone's different.

 

[jkr2020788]

Why don't you run just test since you know this source will be good? You know, to see how you do with just test. Tren is usually saved until later cycles, not just because it has sides, but also, you need to learn how to monitor and manage your e2 levels, test levels, and with tren, prolactin levels, along with all the other lab work you need to keep an eye on. You can't fuck around on tren.

 

[imdennis]

kay dude you gotta take a step back.... tren and prop.... no. you never ran test cause it was bunk.... which means you have no idea how actual potent gear feels... secondly... tren ace for second (first) cycle.... get real... your goals wont be met with 1 steroid cycle.. you gotta be in it for a while....

 

[kaname]

Why don't you run just test since you know this source will be good? You know, to see how you do with just test. Tren is usually saved until later cycles, not just because it has sides, but also, you need to learn how to monitor and manage your e2 levels, test levels, and with tren, prolactin levels, along with all the other lab work you need to keep an eye on. You can't fuck around on tren.

^ this....And by his statements in the OP it's fairly clear he isn't going by lab work to draw his conclusions. Unless you've run plenty of cycles before guessing as to whether your gear is underdosed or not is certainly not the way to go. Lab work, lab work, lab work.

Run a complete first cycle first, and have lab work done to insure everything is as it should be.

 

[bigben66]

For what it's worth, I'm 42, with four varied Test cycles under my belt - I was considering having a dabble with a low dose Tren cycle for my 5th cycle... However even at 42 I think I can still make good gains on tinkering with my Test cycles/dosages etc...

I think you are crazy to jump straight into a Tren cycle at your age - when you havent experienced the benefits of a true Test cycle... listen to these guys on here - soak in their advice - sample a legit Test cycle - chuck in a secondary if you require...

You need to learn how receptive your body is to Test before you jump gung-ho into the heavy stuff...

Good luck with what you decide though!