Second Cycle Suggestions?

ChaseTheYoke

ChaseTheYoke

Half Man, Half Amazing
Hello brethren,

So I'm looking to start a second cycle and I have a couple ideas but thought I would hit you guys up for some suggestions.

My first cycle was testE @500/w with an SD kicker week 1-5. I had great gains but at week 10 or 11 I woke up with some KNARLEY golfer's + some nice tennis elbow. That was four month ago almost and I'm down 10 lbs and just now confident enough to get back in the gym. Been back in about 3 weeks now, elbow is much better... though I still can't straighten it completely =/

BUT ANWAYS! I was thinking of doing one of these:

Test/Deca
Test/winny
Sust/winny

I really could just add winny I suppose to test/deca but trying not to break the bank.

Thanks in advance for any advice/info
 
Personally if you have only been back in the gym for a few weeks, I would hold off and see how that elbow recovers. If you decide to run something, definitely do Test/Deca. Don't even touch Winny. Winny is notorious for drying out joints. My joints hurt bad on Winny. Combine that with the added strength from Test/Deca and you are begging for an injury. Good luck. Also make sure to get an AI and Dope Agonist and out line a solid PCT.
 
riprockwell said:
Personally if you have only been back in the gym for a few weeks, I would hold off and see how that elbow recovers. If you decide to run something, definitely do Test/Deca. Don't even touch Winny. Winny is notorious for drying out joints. My joints hurt bad on Winny. Combine that with the added strength from Test/Deca and you are begging for an injury. Good luck. Also make sure to get an AI and Dope Agonist and out line a solid PCT.
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Oh yeah bro, for sure. Just gonna try to start getting my carts in a row. Thanks.
 
Norsegod said:
Deca will help cushion and speed up healing on that elbow. Do not touch winny.
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Right on. Just to clarify though, my elbow problem is tendonitis from what I've been told by the Dr. However I didn't realize winny dried you out that badly, so yeah fuck that noise.

Just off the top of my head:

Test 500/w - pinned twice
Deca same (PSL is 250mg/ml)

Will do 12-13 weeks

stane 12.5 eod stop on last pin

PCT
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20?/20?

Seems people prefer prami over caber for the most part so I'll get that on hand along with my support supps.

Anything else I need to research? Deca dick scares me ='(
 
Run test 2 weeks longer than deca. I prefer caber if possible. Keep your e2 in range and you SHOULDNT have to many problems
 
Also this will be my first cycle with two injectables, but I'm assuming I can just draw a cc of each into the same pin. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Norsegod said:
Deca will help cushion and speed up healing on that elbow. Do not touch winny.
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Deca doesn't really "heal" joints or injurys. It will provide a lubrication effect to the joints while running it. Once the deca is stopped, prior injurys tend to re-surface do to false confidence while on deca and taxing the joints more.
 
tbonexl said:
Deca doesn't really "heal" joints or injurys. It will provide a lubrication effect to the joints while running it. Once the deca is stopped, prior injurys tend to re-surface do to false confidence while on deca and taxing the joints more.
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Good point. It will only mask the injury. I felt great on my deca run but when I got off, and it cleared, holy fuck I was hurting! Keep that in mind op
 
Metalhead said:
Run test 2 weeks longer than deca. I prefer caber if possible. Keep your e2 in range and you SHOULDNT have to many problems
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Ah yes. That reminds me of another question that may be for another forum section. I've got a wellness check in the middle of my test cycle from my Dr. and there wasn't any hormonal panel. It was basically my kidney's/cholesterol/thyroid with some other crap I didn't bother to decipher. As you would probably guess I was looking for test/estrogen levels but I didn't really know the ethics of the situation so I kinda pussed out and didn't say anything.

Which brings me to the question. Would it be "ethical" to tell a Dr./Practioner "Yo I'm juicing and I wanna monitor my hormone levels." Would there be any possible repercussions?

EDIT: I mean he's obviously gonna know something is up in the middle of my cycle when my test is through the roof.
 
ChaseTheYoke said:
Ah yes. That reminds me of another question that may be for another forum section. I've got a wellness check in the middle of my test cycle from my Dr. and there wasn't any hormonal panel. It was basically my kidney's/cholesterol/thyroid with some other crap I didn't bother to decipher. As you would probably guess I was looking for test/estrogen levels but I didn't really know the ethics of the situation so I kinda pussed out and didn't say anything.

Which brings me to the question. Would it be "ethical" to tell a Dr./Practioner "Yo I'm juicing and I wanna monitor my hormone levels." Would there be any possible repercussions?

EDIT: I mean he's obviously gonna know something is up in the middle of my cycle when my test is through the roof.
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I personally would not. I get my bloodwork through privatemd. If youre in the states anyway. Pllus I don't want to risk losing my insurance
 
Some studies have shown that deca increases collagen synthesis (strengthening the tendons), while most other steroids weaken and make tendons brittle.
Deca is the best choice.. Add hgh which also increases collagen synthesis and strengthens tendons and you'll have a synergy with muscle building and tendon strengthening.
 
ChaseTheYoke said:
Ah yes. That reminds me of another question that may be for another forum section. I've got a wellness check in the middle of my test cycle from my Dr. and there wasn't any hormonal panel. It was basically my kidney's/cholesterol/thyroid with some other crap I didn't bother to decipher. As you would probably guess I was looking for test/estrogen levels but I didn't really know the ethics of the situation so I kinda pussed out and didn't say anything.

Which brings me to the question. Would it be "ethical" to tell a Dr./Practioner "Yo I'm juicing and I wanna monitor my hormone levels." Would there be any possible repercussions?

EDIT: I mean he's obviously gonna know something is up in the middle of my cycle when my test is through the roof.
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Never tell your doctor you are on an illegal substance. You realize this information gets put in your medical file and can screw you over down the road when you are trying to get health/life insurance. I wouldn't test during cycle either as your high test levels would definitely let him know you are on testosterone. So go through privatemdlabs as suggested.

ChaseTheYoke said:
Ah nice. Mind if I ask which test you get?
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Get the Hormone Panel for Females. Yes I said females. When you order it and go to pay, there will be a drop down box to select your gender as a male. This hormone panel has more than the male one and has estrogen reading, etc. You will order it, print out a lab form from your printer, then go in to the nearest Lab Corp to draw your blood. They will email you results in 48 hours. Easy stuff. If you are looking for something to help that elbow, look in to getting some TB500 peptide. That stuff is nothing short of amazing.
 
riprockwell said:
Never tell your doctor you are on an illegal substance. You realize this information gets put in your medical file and can screw you over down the road when you are trying to get health/life insurance. I wouldn't test during cycle either as your high test levels would definitely let him know you are on testosterone. So go through privatemdlabs as suggested.


Get the Hormone Panel for Females. Yes I said females. When you order it and go to pay, there will be a drop down box to select your gender as a male. This hormone panel has more than the male one and has estrogen reading, etc. You will order it, print out a lab form from your printer, then go in to the nearest Lab Corp to draw your blood. They will email you results in 48 hours. Easy stuff. If you are looking for something to help that elbow, look in to getting some TB500 peptide. That stuff is nothing short of amazing.
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Much appreciated !! Will be looking into this TB500 as well. Thanks again riprockwell.
 
And yes, it's more pinning for short esters. I've been doing this for a long time do I'm used to pinning, plus I'm on trt. I was just saying I never used deca, just npp as I prefer the shirt esters. If you want a short cycle then you need short esters cuz it'll kick in much faster. if you use long esters then by the time you get the hormone to kick in you only have 4,5, maybe 6 weeks of optimal levels on an 8 to 10 week run. A ten week cycle with a short ester you'll have 8 optimal level weeks
 
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