Short Tren A cycle...would it even benefit?

[Body_weight02]

Just thought I’d show off my ignorance by asking a hypothetical question. With Tren being considered the baddest of the bad would there be any benefit in running a low dose/short run especially if you were “popping your Tren cherry” so to speak?
Something like a typical 12 week 500mg T cycle then add Tren A the last 4-5 weeks at 150-200mg a week. Or would the potentially benefit from the Tren be negligible in comparison to just finishing the cycle T only? Let’s say for a lean bulking or cutting cycle either 1

 

[PapaNoel]

I'd say you would see noticeable gains adding tren at 200mg per week, even better at 300-350mg.

But... As someone that just finishing up his second tren cycle...the sides are not worth bro. It really isn't, not for me at least.
So going by that logic... I'd run a larger dose just because the sides will be there regardless. Obviously everyone's different and your sides and gains will vary.
Run it 6 weeks though, 4 will be too short.

 

[Body_weight02]

I'd say you would see noticeable gains adding tren at 200mg per week, even better at 300-350mg.

But... As someone that just finishing up his second tren cycle...the sides are not worth bro. It really isn't, not for me at least.
So going by that logic... I'd run a larger dose just because the sides will be there regardless. Obviously everyone's different and your sides and gains will vary.
Run it 6 weeks though, 4 will be too short.

Tren sides are like something out of a horror movie. Well from what I’ve read, I have no experience with it. I know several guys that have ran it and it seemed about 50/50...1/2 couldn’t deal with it and the other 1/2 loved. Just seemed to me that a short low dose cycle might carry the sides at a much more manageable level. But I totally get what you’ re saying...if you are gonna suffer anyway might as well make it worth it.

 

[PapaNoel]

Tren sides are like something out of a horror movie. Well from what I***8217;ve read, I have no experience with it. I know several guys that have ran it and it seemed about 50/50...1/2 couldn***8217;t deal with it and the other 1/2 loved. Just seemed to me that a short low dose cycle might carry the sides at a much more manageable level. But I totally get what you***8217; re saying...if you are gonna suffer anyway might as well make it worth it.

I would consider myself very blessed when it comes to sides from all the compounds i've tried so far. They've been pretty mild overall but tren is slow to fuck you up so you have the time to adjust mentally and you sorta trick yourself its not so bad...

The sides from tren, I label like this, from worst to less worse.
Insomnia - It comes on slowly and I honestly didn't notice this or last cycle just how fucked up it actually is and much it takes a toll on your body as a whole.
The nightmares - They are so real and so fucked up its very hard to tell whats real and whats not after waking up. I've died a couple times this cycle, from my best friend killing me, but I dont wake up... That and losing all your teeth are the best ones lol...
The sweating - You'll constantly feel like you're showering in your own sweat... And unless you shower minimum twice per day you'll have acne all over. If you're prone to acne, I wouldn't even consider tren.
Loss of mental well being - This one is tricky and is connected to lack of sleep and the nightmares. The longer the cycle goes on, the more heinous thoughts will occur and its progressively harder to deal with them.

Notice I haven't even brought up the health issues that you'll get with tren, which is a list of its own.
With all that in mind, i'm not so sure tren is the "best steroid ever created", its powerful for sure but not powerful enough to deal with all the drawbacks.

My first cycle was 6 weeks on tren and I was pinning EOD and the similar doses you suggested (think I ran 175mg/wk) . Had exactly the same issues and sides as I did now except sweating and insomnia was slightly better this time due to pinning ED.

 

[Body_weight02]

I would consider myself very blessed when it comes to sides from all the compounds i've tried so far. They've been pretty mild overall but tren is slow to fuck you up so you have the time to adjust mentally and you sorta trick yourself its not so bad...

The sides from tren, I label like this, from worst to less worse.
Insomnia - It comes on slowly and I honestly didn't notice this or last cycle just how fucked up it actually is and much it takes a toll on your body as a whole.
The nightmares - They are so real and so fucked up its very hard to tell whats real and whats not after waking up. I've died a couple times this cycle, from my best friend killing me, but I dont wake up... That and losing all your teeth are the best ones lol...
The sweating - You'll constantly feel like you're showering in your own sweat... And unless you shower minimum twice per day you'll have acne all over. If you're prone to acne, I wouldn't even consider tren.
Loss of mental well being - This one is tricky and is connected to lack of sleep and the nightmares. The longer the cycle goes on, the more heinous thoughts will occur and its progressively harder to deal with them.

Notice I haven't even brought up the health issues that you'll get with tren, which is a list of its own.
With all that in mind, i'm not so sure tren is the "best steroid ever created", its powerful for sure but not powerful enough to deal with all the drawbacks.

My first cycle was 6 weeks on tren and I was pinning EOD and the similar doses you suggested (think I ran 175mg/wk) . Had exactly the same issues and sides as I did now except sweating and insomnia was slightly better this time due to pinning ED.

From what I’ve seen you are definitely 1 to shoot someone straight (not much pu$$y footing around with you, lol). I’ve been setting on a couple vials for almost 2 years...think I may set on them for a little while longer or maybe just swap them for some good ole’ American, garage/basement lab test.
Thanks again Santa

 

[PapaNoel]

From what I***8217;ve seen you are definitely 1 to shoot someone straight (not much pu$$y footing around with you, lol). I***8217;ve been setting on a couple vials for almost 2 years...think I may set on them for a little while longer or maybe just swap them for some good ole***8217; American, garage/basement lab test.
Thanks again Santa

Hahah
Generally speaking i dont have time or interest in sugar coating stuff.
I know i come off as arrogant and even rude at times but i rarely mean it that way.
I've always been direct and honest to a fault lol..

I dont wanna discourage you from making up your own mind about tren bro.
If you wanna try tren and see how it feels, just run acetate and you can bail rather quickly. Really, no shame in bailing tren after 2 weeks or whatever.
I personally just dont think its worth it and wanted to share my experience in a sort of "most powerful steroid vs most powerful side effects" lol...
Never gonna run tren again myself thats 100% sure though

No worries bro, just happy to help!

 

[Body_weight02]

Hahah
Generally speaking i dont have time or interest in sugar coating stuff.
I know i come off as arrogant and even rude at times but i rarely mean it that way.
I've always been direct and honest to a fault lol..

I dont wanna discourage you from making up your own mind about tren bro.
If you wanna try tren and see how it feels, just run acetate and you can bail rather quickly. Really, no shame in bailing tren after 2 weeks or whatever.
I personally just dont think its worth it and wanted to share my experience in a sort of "most powerful steroid vs most powerful side effects" lol...
Never gonna run tren again myself thats 100% sure though

No worries bro, just happy to help!

I seem to have side issues with most any compound I run outside of T only. Now that’s with limited experience but I’d say that may be the consensus with Tren too. Just needed a little reminder on why it’s been in the closet for 2 years. I wouldn’t mind trying Masteron or another cutting drug sometime but for me it seems keeping it simple is the best route.

 

[PapaNoel]

I honestly regret running tren for my first cycle...
And then with my second cycle again 3 compounds...

Really, whats left for me running 3rd and 4th cycle ?
4 compounds ? 6 ?

In a perfect world, I'd be running exactly like latestart is... I'm sure its slowly killing him but boy, would I like having that ability lol...

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

From what I***8217;ve seen you are definitely 1 to shoot someone straight (not much pu$$y footing around with you, lol). I***8217;ve been setting on a couple vials for almost 2 years...think I may set on them for a little while longer or maybe just swap them for some good ole***8217; American, garage/basement lab test.
Thanks again Santa

How are you keeping that gear stored for 2 years?

 

[Body_weight02]

How are you keeping that gear stored for 2 years?

Not sure exactly what you are asking. If you’re asking how it’s stored, it’s just in my gun safe. If you are asking how I’ve gone this long without using it, I only run 1 cycle a year. I had bought the Tren without any research for my second cycle (proposed T/Deca/Tren per recommendation of a local competitive body builder). Thank God I did some research before I started pinning and never used it.

 

[Anon44]

How are you keeping that gear stored for 2 years?

Injectables stay good for a long time. I’ve had gear several years past the exp. date. One guy on H.U. Has gearfrom 10 plus years ago that he dips into here and there. Orals stay good for years also.

 

[Anon44]

Just thought I’d show off my ignorance by asking a hypothetical question. With Tren being considered the baddest of the bad would there be any benefit in running a low dose/short run especially if you were “popping your Tren cherry” so to speak?
Something like a typical 12 week 500mg T cycle then add Tren A the last 4-5 weeks at 150-200mg a week. Or would the potentially benefit from the Tren be negligible in comparison to just finishing the cycle T only? Let’s say for a lean bulking or cutting cycle either 1

Since you have two bottles and I’m assuming it’s acetate you have enough for ten weeks at 200mg a week. 200mg a week is just enough to see some results, nothing major but you’ll see a difference in vascularity and some strength gains. I used to get some pretty gnarly sides at 6-700mg ew but I also ran test milligram for milligram along side the tren. I don’t get any sides when I run higher tren to low test ratio. I’m about 8/20 weeks in on my time using first tren e 600mg ew and 250mg test e. I get zero sides from the tren e. Not even the terrible cough.

I’d run the 200mg ew for ten weeks and since I’m assuming it’s acetate you have, if you start getting sides the will be gone in a few days after your last pin. I have a lot of experience with tren. From going way back making it myself from the fina pellets.

Good luck!!!!

 

[Body_weight02]

Since you have two bottles and I’m assuming it’s acetate you have enough for ten weeks at 200mg a week. 200mg a week is just enough to see some results, nothing major but you’ll see a difference in vascularity and some strength gains. I used to get some pretty gnarly sides at 6-700mg ew but I also ran test milligram for milligram along side the tren. I don’t get any sides when I run higher tren to low test ratio. I’m about 8/20 weeks in on my time using first tren e 600mg ew and 250mg test e. I get zero sides from the tren e. Not even the terrible cough.

I’d run the 200mg ew for ten weeks and since I’m assuming it’s acetate you have, if you start getting sides the will be gone in a few days after your last pin. I have a lot of experience with tren. From going way back making it myself from the fina pellets.

Good luck!!!!

Thanks for the reply and you are correct I have ace. I’m currently running a T/Eq cycle so I won’t be adding anything to it, but the idea of a short, low dose Tren run at the end of a standard T cycle is something I’d like to try...next time, maybe by then I’ll develop enough testicular fortitude.

 

[Anon44]

Thanks for the reply and you are correct I have ace. I’m currently running a T/Eq cycle so I won’t be adding anything to it, but the idea of a short, low dose Tren run at the end of a standard T cycle is something I’d like to try...next time, maybe by then I’ll develop enough testicular fortitude.

How are you liking the EQ? I did just one bottle before 5 weeks only. That was way before I learned that 6-800mg was a good dose to make it shine and 16 week plus cycle to really see good results.

 

[Body_weight02]

How are you liking the EQ? I did just one bottle before 5 weeks only. That was way before I learned that 6-800mg was a good dose to make it shine and 16 week plus cycle to really see good results.

I like it so far, but this is only my 3rd cycle so I don’t have a lot to compare to. Only other compound I’ve ran other than test is Deca and d-bol. I like the Eq much better than the Deca and way better than d-bol. l have a cycle log going if you want to check it out.

 

[casanovaaa]

So at what age would tren not be recomendable to someone who wants to do a cycle?

 

[Body_weight02]

So at what age would tren not be recomendable to someone who wants to do a cycle?

?...good question. I’m 34 and my balls haven’t dropped far enough yet. Every time I start to think about it I can feel my testicles start to suck back up inside me...lol

 

[casanovaaa]

How old is too old to cycle?

 

[casanovaaa]

I think anyone over 50 should consider not using tren.

 

[Mr P]

1. Expired steroid vials don't really expire or go to waist for years.

2. Low doses of tren 100 mg -200 mg can make a significant transformation with a clean diet.

3. Watch out for the asshat syndrome.

4. For us, Old dudes tren will create heavy sides.

5. I don't remember when and how tren popped my cherry.