Shoulder surgery..post op

[bodySculpter]

Whats up, had my right shoulder scoped about 3wks ago, going to physical therapy and feeling better. I tore the cartildge of the bone so the doc says he asked me about roids but i played dumb you know the "andro" phrase. Have any of you had similar surgerys. Ive been off for 3mos and will hit my next cycle about end of summer, if everything goes right..peace jt

 

[bigjd69]

I had my right shoulder scoped a few years back, my labrium was torn. Take it slow on the rehab, trust me dont rush it, you will make matters worse if you get back into the gym to quick. the best piece of advice that I can give you is to take your time and find a good massage therapist who specializes in A.R.T.

 

[bodySculpter]

Anyone else had injuries and how they bounced back....peace jt

 

[J.C Derksen]

I tore the rotator cuff in my right shoulder 2 years ago.Apparently when that happens you are never the same again.I call bullshit.Take your time getting back in the gym though,I know it took me at least 5 months after the scope to get back in.The worst thing that can happen though is if you let the fact that you're NOT lfiting weight like you used to be able too get to you.Basically I started from scratch and got past personal bests with ALOT of hard work,and mostly fighting frustration.

 

[Melbourne]

If your labrum was torn and you had it repaired with the insertion of titanium screws and sutures to repair the labrum, then you've got a long road to recovery. 12 months until you're back to your peak. Of course you'll be able to do plenty before that. Just don't rush it. Your shoulder muscles will wither, but don't worry, they will come back easy enough.

Interestingly, the more movement you have early on in your recovery, the less likely your recovery will be. Apparently its better to have a nice strong tight shoulder to cope with load of heavy weights, the strain of throwing or the inpact of tackling.

Forget about behind the neck presses or pulldowns. Forever.

What do you say about AASs and the recovery from shoulder surgery? Have you had any advice or experience of steriods helping or harming recovery? If so, what products?

Good luck with your recovery.

 

[Jimmykick]

Guys shoulders are amongst the most sensitive muscle groups. Please be careful in coming back too soon.

 

[Ponderosa]

AAS generally don't help in the recovery process for injured tendons or ligaments, according to several docs I've been to.

I wonder, has anyone had an MRI in which the results revealed no significant injuries, yet upon scoping later on, whammo an injury was in fact observed? My MRI showed nothing significant wrong, yet 3 months on and the shoulder is still a bitch. WTF?

 

[bodySculpter]

Ponderosa, thats exactly what happened to me the friggin MRI didnt show the cartiledge had been tore from the bone,or the biceps tendon.wtf all that money.....Im going to keep up with cardio 5x a wk. and continue pt until end of july,, no Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) till i feel ready,with 8 yrs of experience i know when is when,you get wiser the older you get...but lots of deca.... peace jt

 

[Melbourne]

Its a bit of a suprise to hear that an MRI didn't show a up tear, but its not impossible. I've heard of repeat MRIs showing different things. Usually, a good surgeon will be able to tell if something is torn just by examining you. The MRI is just to confirm what he already knows.

The shoulder is a crap joint but we're stuck with it.

Deca? Really?

 

[Ponderosa]

Yeah, deca??

Of the 3 guys I know with shoulder injuries, all three had negative MRIs. A better diagnosis can be obtained from a highly skilled/experience surgeon/ortho. Problem for me is that I'm in an area where they all suck, and my MRI is neg. A doc friend has advised, based solely on sympomology, that it is indeed a tear. He advised that no amount of PT will fix it (tear); and said to discontinue all gear (duh). FUCK FUCK FUCK.

 

[bodySculpter]

Deca works for my ligaments and tendons better than any other, and i have done at one time or another most all aas...The doc i used was one of the best in the south carolina area and told me its improving faster than most..Deca is the king peace jt

 

[no regrets]

In 2004 I developed impingement in both of my rotator cuffs. I had the right one operated in February and the left one operated in March. It tended to be very frustrating to be out of the gym for so long but I was better off not rushing it in the end. Take your time with therapy and coming back. You won't regret it.

 

[bodySculpter]

Thank fellas, Great advice im going to let it heal for as long as i feel comfortable with it to start lifting again..and yeah not lifting sucks but im doing 30-40min of cardio 5x per wk. Dont mind fuck your selves and just stay away cause you cant lift. Im losing size but my heart feels great..dont worry about size im staying around 210-215 and been off for 4mos.
Dont mind fuck yourselves....im not a newbie peace jt

 

[Jimmykick]

In 2004 I developed impingement in both of my rotator cuffs. I had the right one operated in February and the left one operated in March. It tended to be very frustrating to be out of the gym for so long but I was better off not rushing it in the end. Take your time with therapy and coming back. You won't regret it.

I have impingements in each shoulder as well. I decided to train around it. I went through some major bouts of pain as my delts swelled with the new mass I was adding but in time the bones actually began to separate and while today it is still not optimal, I am not in pain like I was and I am a hell of alot bigger than I was.

 

[DocJ]

Biggest key to many more years of training: Take it slow getting back into lifting. Fight the frustration that you'll have and don't be tempted to push it too hard to fast. Injuries to shoulders and knees are ones to never take lightly.

 

[bodySculpter]

I also had to stop training shoulders for at least 1 yr,im pretty blessed with good shoulders so you really couldnt tell i hadnt been training them. Your shoulders are used in most upper body movements so it was easy to train around them even though i was a little weaker on chest but the longer you train and the smarter you train will always help. thanks jt

 

[djs]

I am going in for a Labrum repair on Tuesday...... Already planned on a long recovery and waiting to go back on, I was wondering about HGH during recovery though?

 

[Melbourne]

I am going in for a Labrum repair on Tuesday...... Already planned on a long recovery and waiting to go back on, I was wondering about HGH during recovery though?

How bad is the tear? How did it happen? Is the op going to be arthroscopic or open? What did your doc tell you about recovery etc?

In any case, good luck with it. Its a pretty common procedure now.

 

[djs]

The problem is that he is not 100% sure until he gets in there, what happened was it has been an aggravating sore for quite some time, mostly on heavy chest or shoulder days. But in the last 3 months it has felt like an icepick inside it.

The MRI showed a Ganglion Cyst about half the size of a golf ball that is up against the nerves in the joint, The Dr is certain the cyst is grown from a tear in the Labrum, but will not know until the cyst is first removed and he can see under it.

The plan now is to scope it, my Dr is actually the team Dr for 2 of the pro sports teams here in town and feels he can get to it all via scope. He also said he uses a new technique to anchor the stitch to the top of the Hunerous that is not as bad as the old Titanium scew way... he bores a small hole in the top and the stitch looks something like a cat of nine tails, the plug eng goes intot he hole and the stitches tot he labrum, it all dissolves within 2 months.

I had used HGH in the past and seen good results with joint pain, but not sure if it was a Deca type "mask" with extra fluid or actually helping?

I am going to ask him about going back on HGH post op...

 

[Ponderosa]

djs -

Thanks for your personal insight; this can be very useful for the rest of us considering the same path. I've asked one of my docs about HGH and, although conservative in his views, he was still opposed to my using any "supplements" for healing/masking.

Also, it is extremely common for docs not to know the extent of damage prior to surgery. So, everything seems normal for you. I'd be interested in seeing how this new anchor method works out for you. Also, how did you link up with a doc who seems to already have a full line of (professional athlete) patients??