shoulder

[0nyx]

the pains in my shoulder are just getting to be too much for me. i do not have enough money to go see a massage therapist, or a sports physiotherapist. and if i bring it up to my doctor, he tells me to stop working out.

i forget what that thread was with the post to help shoulders. i think easto posted it, but i am not sure.

it has to do with holding the stick and bringing it over your head to your back. has anyone had any progress with this, and can someone please post the link . thanks

 

[mister69]

mabey some stretching after certain movements can help yuo out.

But let the vets chime in and give some good advice as i know they are here to help and know lots of remedys

 

[tman55]

what is the nature of the injury? where does it hurt on the shoulder and which exercises set it off? have you taken any time off to let it heal? what have you done to remedy the prob so far. i remember the post you speak of and it was just stretching with a broom stick type thing. it may help.?

 

[tman55]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65425&highlight=shoulder+stretch

 

[jes131]

I'm always having shoulder problems, ever since I had rotator-cuff tendonitis back when I was playing volleyball. With the information you gave, it's impossible to guess at the nature of the injury - more info would help. But, as a general rule, stretching and icing are usually beneficial. I just recently developed pain in my right, rear delt - not the front where rotator-cuff pains usually appear. I quit doing lat pull since that irritated it the most and I try to ice it every night because it hurts a bit when I bench and I'm not going to take that out of my program unless I absolutely have to. If you lift heavy, especially bench, you can develop rotator-cuff problems if you flare your elbows out too much, or if your connective tissue simply isn't as strong as it should be - that's where the rotator-cuff excercises come in. Sorry for the lengthy reply - just trying to give as much info as possible.

 

[0nyx]

thanks guys.

i have actually had cracking in my shoulders since about 2 years ago. when i started working out, form was totally off and i loaded up the weights. so if i raise my shoulders to the side, and bring them down. i will feel a crack. primarily in my left shoulder.

now, the pain i am experiencing now is actually i guesse where my side delt meets the rear delt. i also have pain at the very front of my shoulder (right beside my chest).

i have had very limited movement in my shuolders for quite some time now. and if i move them a certain way i will feel sharp pain. even so much as lifting a glass of water sometimes i can feel it.

hope that helps a bit :S

 

[Eze]

Try that exercise that I posted, I can't even tell you how much it has helped me.

 

[jes131]

I just came back from the doc - went to get my own shoulder checked out. My pain is about where yours is (mid to rear delt) and I was told it's my old friend tendonitis again coming back for a reunion. If it is tendonitis, then ice will help as will consistently taking an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen for a few days (2400-3200 mg/day). In addition to that, I'm also lowering the amount of weight I do just to reduce some of the stress put on the tendons. Add in some stretching and low-intensity rotator cuff strengthening excercises and I'm expecting to be back to 100% in a couple weeks (I'm a bit of an optimist though and still haven't realized that I'm not 18 anymore). Try it and see if it helps (especially the ice), I doubt it'll make anything worse.

 

[Bast]

Check out youre other thread, i recommend accupuncture and laser on the are, then some streching and lighter weight 1-2weeks (50% of the weight double reps).

 

[joshbeam1]

Try that exercise that I posted, I can't even tell you how much it has helped me.

Yes...i've not even been doing it for 2 wks and i've noticed a BIG difference already.

 

[Stinn]

It's not tendonitis but no one ever seems to believe me.
Pain between your medial delt and posterior delt: Sounds like teres minor to me
http://www.coventrypainclinic.org.uk/i-cache/muscle-teresminor.JPG

Front delt pain: Definately sounds like infraspinatus
http://www.coventrypainclinic.org.uk/i-cache/muscle-infraspinatus.JPG
Pay attention to the top two X's here, those are your problem

the X is where you should try massaging with the tennis ball, the red is where you feel the pain. You can either lay on the floor with the tennis ball under you or you can put the ball in a sock and lean against a wall. The ball is the sock is much easier to control where you hit with it.
Please though, everyone continue to ignore me!

 

[0nyx]

great, thanks a lot stinn. now i will have some more to work with. i am pretty happy, i was just told that my insurance will cover me seeing a physiotherapist, so i think i am going to start that up aswell.

thanks a lot

 

[Stinn]

I should mention that if you are really thick then a tennis ball might have issues getting deep enough to massage some points. I personally use a lacrosse ball, smooth and hard, it works great.
Good luck with the shoulder. If you push on the points above you will know instantly if you have a problem there. It hurts but it is a good kind of pain.

 

[bigwill1970]

The shoulder is feeling so much better after doing the above movements for a week, I also stopped taking Zorcor, which was the cause of the tendonitis in the first place. Thank you much for posting the above movement. It really helped me

 

[solcraft]

i have had a reoccurance of the same type of injury, although i think mine is actually a tear of the subscapularus, still a rotator muscle. i have to admit that the stretch if done as a stand alone exercise has helped me a great deal. i would caution that to reap the full benifits of that exercise i dont reccomend working out the effected area after stretching it, heres why: most static streches actualy temporarily weaken the muscle, which possibly leads to more injury. i have this knowledge first hand. in fact i just got off of taking a full month off (ok not completly off) of heavy lifts. i've just been sticking to about three days a week of moderate weight and low intensity with the focus on just the three core lifts(bench,deads,squats). this has been very difficult to not go all out , but my body feels 100% better for it. after a week my pain has gone, and after amonth i'm ready to get back to full speed.
my advice: baby yourself, take some time to heal so you can keep it up in the future. lokk forward -where do you want to be? all broke off because you didnt listen to your body? sorry for the long post -just trying to keep it real.......

 

[Mudge]

My left shoulder is fucked currently, I avoid all things that bother it.

* Overhead pressing
* Dips
* Flat benching

All I can do are incline dumbells, flat dumbell work bothers it. Strangely inclines do not bother it at all.