Sides from prohormones as opposed to juice.

[gazh1983]

Hey all, try to keep this short.

Am 28 been training since I was 16.
My best friend juices (he's currently on Sustanon (sust) and tren ace) and tbh I'd love to do the same as my natural strength has just stalled. I react to any supplement very quickly.

Anyway, I tried the "tren bomb" prohormone around two years ago and got pretty bad mental side effects after a few days (anxiety, depression) and had to stop so a few weeks back I decided to try a very mild PH, P mag.

This time I pre loaded for two weeks, and started off on an extremley low dose (20mg) and STILL had bad sides, after only a few hours. Had to stop.

Is there some sort of ingredient in PH's that would cause this as opposed to say if I did a 6 week cycle of test e at 350mg?

What do you think? Many thanks.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey all, try to keep this short.

Am 28 been training since I was 16.
My best friend juices (he's currently on Sustanon (sust) and tren ace) and tbh I'd love to do the same as my natural strength has just stalled. I react to any supplement very quickly.

Anyway, I tried the "tren bomb" prohormone around two years ago and got pretty bad mental side effects after a few days (anxiety, depression) and had to stop so a few weeks back I decided to try a very mild PH, P mag.

This time I pre loaded for two weeks, and started off on an extremley low dose (20mg) and STILL had bad sides, after only a few hours. Had to stop.

Is there some sort of ingredient in PH's that would cause this as opposed to say if I did a 6 week cycle of test e at 350mg?

What do you think? Many thanks.

6 weeks of teste would be pointless.
teste should be ran for MIN 10 weeks but i would go no less then 12-14 weeks.
it takes a few weeks to even stert to see/feel the teste, so 2-3 weeks of acual gains (if you ran it for 6 wks) (maybe 1 lb or 2) would he a waste and hassle on the body because then you need to recover now from it and you might acually end up smaller then when you started when its all said and done.

some Pro-h's are VERY harsh. "tren-BOMB" for eg.
id rec teste and tbol over that.

somthing I would rec:
wk1-12 400-500mg teste every week
wk1-6 40mg tbol ed
wk14-18 PCT: 50mg clomid ed and or 20-30mg nolva ed


Keep in mind DIET and TRIANNING are more important than ANY cycle.
but makign a proper cycle is important if your going to make it worth while, but nto matter how good the cycle with a crap diet its still not worth while.
so just make sure you keep eye on diet and trainning (AND RESTING!).

good luck!

 

[juced_porkchop]

also did you even do a post cycle therapy (pct) when you did your other OCT horomones?

 

[gazh1983]

Thanks for the reply and nice avatar btw.

Yeah the tren bombs, I felt awesome for a day or so then booom. Same with the pmag thoug that took longer to clear from my system.

EDIT. Yes, an OTC one as I had been on each for no more than a week. Looking back I should have done something more with the t bombs as they gave me testicular atrophy first few days I was on them!

Thankfully they came back though the old nutsack isnt what it once was lol.

 

[biggest ragu]

6 weeks of teste would be pointless.
teste should be ran for MIN 10 weeks but i would go no less then 12-14 weeks.
it takes a few weeks to even stert to see/feel the teste, so 2-3 weeks of acual gains (if you ran it for 6 wks) (maybe 1 lb or 2) would he a waste and hassle on the body because then you need to recover now from it and you might acually end up smaller then when you started when its all said and done.

some Pro-h's are VERY harsh. "tren-BOMB" for eg.
id rec teste and tbol over that.

somthing I would rec:
wk1-12 400-500mg teste every week
wk1-6 40mg tbol ed
wk14-18 PCT: 50mg clomid ed and or 20-30mg nolva ed


Keep in mind DIET and TRIANNING are more important than ANY cycle.
but makign a proper cycle is important if your going to make it worth while, but nto matter how good the cycle with a crap diet its still not worth while.
so just make sure you keep eye on diet and trainning (AND RESTING!).

good luck!

Sorry to interrupt, but by ED, do you mean every day?

 

[Die$eL~Man]

Im not a big fan of prohormones, if your going to stress your body, organs, etc... why not just use the real deal...

 

[Good Grip]

So far I havent heard of anybody reporting mental side effects from running Androlean, Androhard or Andromass. You could look into the Androseries from Primordial Performance and see if its for you. We also have a 100% money back guarantee, so even if you do still these sides your at no risk monetary wise.

 

[kjkinger77]

Dude, prohormones are terrible for your body, the amount of damage they do to your organs and the other sides you get from them, you are LITERALLY safer taking the real thing...

By the way I have horrible anxiety and I have OCD! When I cycle with prohormones it actually made me feel better for like 2-3 weeks but then it would just make me feel fatigued and anxious all the time, except I just dealt with it...

And IMO I wouldn't fuck with tren if you are having mental sides, tren will fuck with your head big time, you'd probably not be able to handle it if you're having mental sides from "tren" formulated ph's...

I would do just test e 4-500mg per week 12-14wks... Don't run something like tren on your first cycle, just the test man and you'll be good to go...

Run clomid or nolva as a post cycle therapy (pct), or you can do clomid AND nolva and run aromasin during your cycle to prevent estrogen build up and side effects, you can do Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) too if you really feel the need to, but if your running test e solo I wouldn't think you need the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but other on here may tell you otherwise but that's my opinion...

And start your post cycle therapy (pct) 2 wks after your last shot of test e... It's a long ester and stays in the body for about 14-16 days after last inject..

Don't get carried away stacking crazy shit and running high doses as your first cycle that's a good way to fuck your body up and you gotta see what your body can handle.

Listen to the people on this forum they know their shit and try to help, too many ppl ask shit and just go ahead and do what their buddies tell em and then they come back in here crying for help cuz they fucked themselves up! Good luck!

 

[juced_porkchop]

Sorry to interrupt, but by ED, do you mean every day?

ed = every day yes.