So many conflicting reports on, test tren and HCG... knowledge is needed

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pa33

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Hey

I have run two cycles in the past, I did one of just Apex all test and one of Apex All test with winstrol and both had clomid PCT's.

I am going to run a test and tren cycle.

I am not going to run this cycle until I have everything organized, I am no idiot...
Everywhere I go I find different answers from different people, contradicting dosages and uses and shot frequency.

this was the tentative plan.

Week 1-10 2x 300mg test per week and 2x 500iu of HCG

Week 3-8 E.O.D 50mg tren

Week 9-11 2x 750iu of HCG

Week 12-16 clomid 100/100/75/50 and Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5 and 3g of Vitamen C daily to combat cortisol.

I have heard add prami and caber and run nolva and I have heard the opposite.

Please any knowledge is greatly appreciated.
 
You do not need that much hcg. all you need is 500iu a week of hcg. Def get some caber or prami. I would go with caber if i was you bc some people get bad sides with prami. And if you get caber get it in the pill form not the liquid. Your tren dose looks good. You can alway up your tren a lil bit if your handling it pretty well. And for your post cycle therapy (pct) you need clomid and Nolv
clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 idk why you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in your post cycle therapy (pct). A Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is for during your cycle to help prevent sides. So take that out of your post cycle therapy (pct). You havnt done to much research. I pretty much just did all your research for you. Good luck with your cycle. If you have any questions feel free to pm. ohh and also if i was you i would start off first at 300mgs of test a week with your tren bc some say high test with tren will cause more sides. and if your not having any bad sides by week 2 up to 400mgs. and then if you still feel no sides try 500mgs. But then if you start getting bad sides lower it back down. You gotta play with the doses to see what works best for you. higher test than tren is for more of a bulk and higher tren than test is more for cutting.
 
Guy, your Trollin.. u got a half dozen threads u started that got everything u need to know in them.. go read it..
 
pa33 I feel you buddy. Im on test prop right now second week. And staring at Tren ace bottles. I want to take em but i need every bit of info before i start. I have caber liquid, letro liquid, ordered Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and adex still waiting on that; hope source is legit or just wasted 390 Western Union lmao. So just waiting. I heard conflicting stories on test/tren. But since they fight for same receptors I am definatley going to run tren/test a 2 to 1 ratio. So prolly test prop 35 mg vs 75mg of tren ed. Maybe a lil lower first week, then bump it up. Have a post cycle therapy (pct) clomid nolvadex, but i also read Nolvadex does nothing for 19 nor, so dunno. Also heard people run Adex during cycle and aromasin post cycle therapy (pct). I know aromasin is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but Just heard what people do. But i guess its your body so what works best with you. So please more info would be great!!! Also biotin for hair loss.

As for Hcg, Most people say between 500 ius to 1000 ius weekly for 5 weeks off one week back on for 5 weeks 500 to 1000ius. and blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast couple weeks before post cycle therapy (pct). Again just info I have attained no personal experience. Never ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) nor Tren.

Only have run test e/decca/dbol/ and Test prop!! After running a Test e/decca/dbol cycle i concluded I love short esthers since then on only have hit test prop only cycles with clen 14 days on and off, and t3 for a six week period at the end of my test prop cycles.
 
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Fish I feel you buddy. Im on test prop right now second week. And staring at Tren ace bottles. I want to take em but i need every bit of info before i start. I have caber liquid, letro liquid, ordered Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and adex still waiting on that; hope source is legit or just wasted 390 Western Union lmao. So just waiting. I heard conflicting stories on test/tren. But since they fight for same receptors I am definatley going to run tren/test a 2 to 1 ratio. So prolly test prop 35 mg vs 75mg of tren ed. Maybe a lil lower first week, then bump it up. Have a post cycle therapy (pct) clomid nolvadex, but i also read Nolvadex does nothing for 19 nor, so dunno. Also heard people run Adex during cycle and aromasin post cycle therapy (pct). I know aromasin is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but Just heard what people do. But i guess its your body so what works best with you. So please more info would be great!!! Also biotin for hair loss.

As for Hcg, Most people say between 500 ius to 1000 ius weekly for 5 weeks off one week back on for 5 weeks 500 to 1000ius. and blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast couple weeks before post cycle therapy (pct). Again just info I have attained no personal experience. Never ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) nor Tren.

Only have run test e/decca/dbol/ and Test prop!! After running a Test e/decca/dbol cycle i concluded I love short esthers since then on only have hit test prop only cycles with clen 14 days on and off, and t3 for a six week period at the end of my test prop cycles.
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Ive always heard that caber liquid is not any good. You want the pill form of caber or the liquid form of prami. I know a bodybuilder who uses Test higher than Tren for when he is bulking and Tren higher than test when he is cutting. Just have to play with the doses to use what best works for you. You are right Nolva will not do anything for a 19nor. Nolvadex will not fix prolactin. Thats what the caber is for. BUT you do need to have nolvadex in your post cycle therapy (pct) with your clomid. Myself i have never ran aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct) i dont know any one that does. But yes you can run adex during your cycle to help prevent sides. The caber can be ran during your cycle to prvent prolatin from a 19nor also. I dont know anyone that ever does the 5 weeks off with hcg. Everyone i know runs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through their whole cycle at 500iu/wk. Now for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast you can do But i dont think it is really necessary bc your running the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through out your whole cycle. Somone correct me if im wrong?. How long are you doing to be running this cycle?
 
Fish44 said:
Ive always heard that caber liquid is not any good. You want the pill form of caber or the liquid form of prami. I know a bodybuilder who uses Test higher than Tren for when he is bulking and Tren higher than test when he is cutting. Just have to play with the doses to use what best works for you. You are right Nolva will not do anything for a 19nor. Nolvadex will not fix prolactin. Thats what the caber is for. BUT you do need to have nolvadex in your post cycle therapy (pct) with your clomid. Myself i have never ran aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct) i dont know any one that does. But yes you can run adex during your cycle to help prevent sides. The caber can be ran during your cycle to prvent prolatin from a 19nor also. I dont know anyone that ever does the 5 weeks off with hcg. Everyone i know runs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through their whole cycle at 500iu/wk. Now for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast you can do But i dont think it is really necessary bc your running the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through out your whole cycle. Somone correct me if im wrong?. How long are you doing to be running this cycle?
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Ill be running tren for 8 weeks,
1-3 weeks test prop eod 150mg each jab
4-11 weeks test prop, tren ace ed 35mg of test 75mg of tren (With test prop and tren will start a little lower like25mg prop and 50mg of tren, wanting to achieve 35mg/75mg)
12-14 weeks test prop 150 mg eod and winstrol tabs 50mg ed (May introduce winstrol in week 10 depends on how my body is reacting to tren maycut tren to 6 weeks instead of 8 weeks on tren, depends on my body)

Caber twice a week, letro twice a week, (guess i need to get caber tabs, anyone wants to pm on that one please do)
Hcg adex thru cycle not exactly sure the dosage yet have neither in hand so just waiting,
then post cycle therapy (pct) clomid, prolly take nolvadex too,

ty fish44 for the questions and help, I NEED IT!!!
 
Do not run letro twice a week. Letro is to strong and is not as safer. Get adex or aromasin. and Yes get nolvadex for your post cycle therapy (pct) hazy.
 
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