so many different answers for tren a, test prop and winny.....

[garynatestamm]

im planning my next cycle and i want a FINAL answer...any help would be much appreciated...this seems like the most legit forum on the web with many very knowledgable peeps so thanks guys!!

ive done numerous cycles in the past, this will be my 3rd with tren

weeks 1-10 test prop 150mg EOD
weeks 1-8 tren a 100mg EOD
weeks 6-10 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED
weeks 1-10 arimidex .25mg ED

PCT (one week after last prop injection)
weeks 1-4 clomid 50mg ED
weeks 1-2 nolva 40mg ED
weeks 3-4 nolva 20mg ED

NOW THE BIG DEBATE...
do i or dont i need HCG during my cycle???
everyone is saying something different.

ive never had a problem with gyno until my last cycle of Sustanon (sust) and deca so i doubt there will be any issues there

thanks

 

[Cobra Strike]

I would drop the winni....it sucks

also would run the test p at 100mg/eod and the tren a at 125mg/eod

and I believe everyone should run hcg all the way through their cycle

 

[thetruepitbull]

I don't like Winstrol (winny) for the achey joints and the shitty lipid profile.

But I do like the look it gives you when you are lean and that it binds to shbg.

Wouldn't recommend it unless you are super lean.

And take the arimidex eod at 0.5mg, easier to remember.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I don't like Winstrol (winny) for the achey joints and the shitty lipid profile.

But I do like the look it gives you when you are lean and that it binds to shbg.

Wouldn't recommend it unless you are super lean.

And take the arimidex eod at 0.5mg, easier to remember.

10mg of winni a day during a heavy cycle will free up shbg pretty decently

 

[numba1scrapper]

I've heard winni sucks as well, drop that shit... as for the test, COBRA STRIKE, just curious why you would advise him to use more tren then test?? Becuase the test hes using is fact acting and the tren is slow acting?? Although some people can TOLERATE tren/deca in higher dosages then test, most advise the test to be at a higher dosage then the other substance. For exmaple most say when running 750mg of test per week you would run 400-500mg of deca/tren maybe even 600mg to avoid libdo issues.

OP, only other issue I see which isnt REALLY a problem becuase your using two compounds for post cycle therapy (pct) is increasing your Clomid dosage for maybe the first week or two... Clomid is alot stronger then Nolva, id increase your first week or two to 100mg

oh lol, and as for hcg, some swear by it and im sure it probably helps greatly, but im on my 4th cycle and never used hcg and have recovered everytime... thats just me though.

 

[thetruepitbull]

10mg of winni a day during a heavy cycle will free up shbg pretty decently

Thanks.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Thanks.

I think cashout stated it was around 40% freed

 

[Cobra Strike]

I've heard winni sucks as well, drop that shit... as for the test, COBRA STRIKE, just curious why you would advise him to use more tren then test?? Becuase the test hes using is fact acting and the tren is slow acting?? Although some people can TOLERATE tren/deca in higher dosages then test, most advise the test to be at a higher dosage then the other substance. For exmaple most say when running 750mg of test per week you would run 400-500mg of deca/tren maybe even 600mg to avoid libdo issues.

OP, only other issue I see which isnt REALLY a problem becuase your using two compounds for post cycle therapy (pct) is increasing your Clomid dosage for maybe the first week or two... Clomid is alot stronger then Nolva, id increase your first week or two to 100mg

oh lol, and as for hcg, some swear by it and im sure it probably helps greatly, but im on my 4th cycle and never used hcg and have recovered everytime... thats just me though.

I advised that because test and tren fight for the same receptor and you would want the tren to win over the test....this I learned from det oak and user

also just fyi here....hcg isnt just to help with recovery...it also helps in keeping your gains from your cycle by keepiing your test levels high right up to post cycle therapy (pct) and allows your serm therapy to work easier...its also good to run throughout your cycle because it keeps your system from shutting down which is not a very good thing to do IMO

 

[numba1scrapper]

dont you think too much tren will shut him down? Not saying just 25-50mg, pretty much saying in a diff case

 

[Cobra Strike]

dont you think too much tren will shut him down? Not saying just 25-50mg, pretty much saying in a diff case

all aas shuts you down...thats why hcg is there....it basically forces your body to make natty test wether your injecting exogenous test or other compounds...


Im not sure if this is completely correct but Id venture to say that the more you shut your body down the better chance you have of not recovering completely after every cycle. One by one you recover just a little less and next thing you know bam! HRT!