someone plz help!?!?!?.... new to this and been studying but deff need help

[thesven11]

So I have been wanting to get into the juice scene for a few years now but like anything new i attempted to do research but between everything I read I'm a lil lost.... I want to start my first bulking cycle soon but need help plz.*
I thought 2mil eod of cutaxyl150 and 50mg per day of winny for six weeks would b a good starting cycle*
but it appears that is more of a cutting cycle ... so could someone give me a hella good bulking cycle to use including the name of roid, trusted manufacturer of it, dossage, frequancy, and then also a good est blocker and what all ill need for a pct for ur recomended cycle but also the pct id need to take for the cutaxyl150 cycle mentioned above. Also if hgh would b good to add to either cycle and dossage and frequancy of the hgh. Id like a cycle that will deff tear me up hard. Thank you for reading and for your imput.... cant wait to start

 

[Megatron28]

A good first cycle is testosterone. Read the stickies to learn how to run your first cycle. What you have suggested would be terrible.

 

[Kazmir]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ners-guid***********-proper-nutrition-3j.html

 

[test617]

A strong diet and test cyp I think will work wonders for any one new to AAS. You can run the test cyp @ 300 to 500 mgs a week for 12 weeks. run it wit liqui dex .5 EOD and have clomid and tamoxifen ready for pct. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO MAKE SURE YOU NEVER EVER START A CYCLE WITHOUT HAVING YOUR PCT ON HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU NEVER KNOW HOW SOON YOU'LL HAVE TO STOP THAT CYCLE DUE TO UNFORESEEN EVENTS!!!!!!!!!

 

[PrinceDianabol]

A strong diet and test cyp I think will work wonders for any one new to AAS. You can run the test cyp @ 300 to 500 mgs a week for 12 weeks. run it wit liqui dex .5 EOD and have clomid and tamoxifen ready for pct. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO MAKE SURE YOU NEVER EVER START A CYCLE WITHOUT HAVING YOUR PCT ON HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU NEVER KNOW HOW SOON YOU'LL HAVE TO STOP THAT CYCLE DUE TO UNFORESEEN EVENTS!!!!!!!!!

This^^^^

 

[bxruger]

Lean to eat first than read read read

 

[thesven11]

Hey test17 ty so much for ur imput.... I looked the test cyp up and that's what imma do. During my reading I found that the liqui dex is an anti e which makes sense with taking the test but I had a couple questions .... on the site to buy the test it said for pct to take Clomide like u said but then also hugotropin is the hugotropin needed as well? Also it recomended taking nolva during my test cycle along with the liqui dex.... whats your take on that??? And on the liqui dex u said .5 eod I take it that's .5 mg?

 

[yellowballs]

Dont take nolva with dex. Do not. dex is powerful and it is all you need.

For a first cycle you do test 300- 500 , Dex and HCG 250 iu 2x a week or 500 iu 2x a week if you think you need a higher dose. The HCG is to keep your nuts from shrinking.

 

[tbonexl]

U gotta do more research bud. If your here to get spoon fed, its not going to work out well for u. U need to learn for yourself what and why u are planning to use certain things.

 

[thesven11]

Not trying to b spoon feed in all honesty everthing I read kept contradicting each other so I figured I would ask someone who knows what they are doing so I dont mess myself up I figure the best knowledge cones from those who have been doing it and have the experience. Like I said ive been reading and researching for the last two years I have countless papers with notes on em deffenitions and diff names for drugs mentioned cycles and what is said about such cycles and diff combinations but that's where the issues start cuz that's where things start not matching some say the cycle orig mentioned in my post is a beyond great cycle and others say its horrible and will mess you up and this has happened with many things I have found and researched which is why I am asking all the questions I am asking it not to b spoon fed but educated due to all the differences mentioned and found online

 

[thesven11]

Ty yellowcake thought it was odd the site said to take both if I have any other questions ill b sure to ask u or test above u lol like I said all the research ive done and data I collected seems to contradict itself so im a lil lost ty again

 

[test617]

No prob bro. So Hugotropin which is HCG is super helpful when it comes to not letting your testies shrink so do as yellowballs said and use it at 250 2x a week. And no do not take nolva and dex together bro. Buy both though. The Nolva will be useful with clomid, as you CAN'T take liquidex with clomid. So the liqui dex will keep your estrogen levels in check during your cycle. And the nolva will prevent estrogen from binding during PCT. Oh and by the way the HCG is preference but it does help with pct because your balls wont be as small as they would if you had not used it. Hope this helps bro. BUT PLEASE DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS YOU CAN ON DIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU WISH TO SEE GREAT RESULTS AND RETAIN THEM THEN YOUR DIET HAS TO BE ONPOINT. Well hope that helps bro. Plz hit us up if you need anything else

 

[thesven11]

Ty again test...I have it all written down and laid out this is what I have


CYCLE(12 weeks)
test cyp@ 300-500mg weekly
Dex@ 1/2 eye dropper EOD
HCG@250ui weekly ***or I read to take 250 two days before and again one day before test shot... not sure yet still reading on this option****

PCT(2 weeks)
Clomide@50-100mg daily
Tamoxifen@250mg daily

Im beyond pumped to start this just gonna do some more research on diet and then its on im beyond excited ty again guys deff appreciate the knowledge you guys shared

 

[test617]

By the way bro this is a post I love about how and when to run a good pct (its from Biker on UK muscle):
Now the clomid dose suggested by most is: 300mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 7-10 days; followed by 50mg for 7-10 days. First thing I***8217;m going to say is that I***8217;m not convinced that a 300mg day 1 dosage is essential but it won***8217;t do any harm so I leave that choice up to you. Now to be honest for those in their mid 30s and older I believe that a longer duration is a better method of recovery.

So I suggest the following dosage regime:

Age < 35: 150mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 7 days; followed by 50mg for 14 days.

Age > 35: 150mg on day 1; then 100mg for the next 14 days; followed by 50mg for 14 days.

The one for older men will to many of you appear excessive and too long, but at least 50% of the older men that I talk to feel they don***8217;t fully recover with normal clomid treatment and running it slightly longer has appeared to cure the problem for them.

If taking more than 1 pill per day there is not need to split up doses during the day as it has a halflife of about 4 days.

So lets look at a range of products and give you some times to start clomid, most of the short life oral steroids are not effected enough by this to warrant calculating dose dependant changes as it would be a difference in hours and the best rule of thumb with them is start clomid the day after you finish:

Orals
Anadrol / A-50s 8 hours (next day)
Anavar 8 hours (next day)
Dianabol 8 hours (next day)
Winstrol 10 hours (next day)

Injectibles
Deca 400mg[1] a week taken split into two shots 24-25 days
EQ 400mg [1] a week taken split into two shots 17-18 days
Trenbolone
37.5mg per day 3-4 days
75mg per day 5-6 days
Primobolan
400mg [1] a week taken split into two shots 17-18 days
Sustanon[2]
500mg a week taken split into two shots 19-20 days
750mg a week taken split into three shots 23-24 days
Test Cypionate 8
500mg a week taken split into two shots 23-24 days
750mg a week taken split into three shots 27-28 days
1000mg a week taken split into two shots 31-32 days
Test Enanthate
500mg a week taken split into two shots 20-21 days
750mg a week taken split into three shots 23-24 days
1000mg a week taken split into two shots 27 - 28 days
Test Propionate
50mg ED 4-5 days
100mg ED 6-7 days
200mg ED 8-9 days
Test Suspension 8 hours (next day as the orals are)

 

[test617]

Oh and I personally love the 300 mg on day one but this is preference, like biker said not sure it actually makes a dif. but it def wakes up my sex drive!!!

 

[tbonexl]

300-500mgs of test a week. Which is it? A dropper of adex? Get an oral syringe. U can't just guess. 2 weeks of pct is 2 weeks short of a good pct. U need more research. U need to know all this stuff be you start.

 

[test617]

You may think tbonexl is being harsh bro, but trust all he wants is to make sure you dont make the same stupid mistakes others do. They jump into AAS without knowing what they're doing and hand up fucking themselves up, and even worse is that they have no idea what they are doing wrong. I will tell you that you made a smart decision by coming here rather than going to dudes at the gym. Its been my experience that dudes at the gym give the worst advice. Take tbonexl's advice bro and have everything perfectly mapped out, and run it by us again before you start. Best of luck bud.

 

[KingBF]

I wouldn't run less than 500 mg of test a week. I ran 350mg fro my first cycle and wished I had ran more the whole time

 

[yellowballs]

Yeah a half a dropper of Ldex is not correct. You need exact measurements. Get a a few 1ml oral syringes.

My 1st cycle was 500mg of test, actually 525 mg. I can say that it was truly impressive . But I wish I had started at 300 mg instead. I would have made decent gains still and had less sides to deal with. My 3rd test only cycle was 400 mg and I thought it was great but thats just me.
Did you or are you planning on getting your blood work done before you cycle? You really should.