Standard Cycle

[Jack Reacher]

26 years old, been training since 16. Sitting at a steady 97kg for the last 6months. Up from about 80kg at 18years old. Will be my first cycle. Gear arriving
tomorrow. First pin 30th November.

Always a relatively clean diet, maintaining at 4000. Bumping this up to 4500-5000 over the cycle. Drinking about 8L (2gallons) of water a day.

W1 - W4 - 40mg Dbol 2x250mg Test E
W4 - W15 2x250mg Test E
11 Days after last pin - Start 4 weeks post cycle therapy (pct) - 20mg Nolva ED

Have letro on hand.

Going to be rotating through quads and delts
23g 1 1/4"s for all
18s for drawing

Cycle probably wont last the entire 15 weeks because in my opinion its too long, may shorten it to 12. Only reason I say 15 is I have enough gear to run 15 weeks.

Have taurine and arginine to take ED while on Dbol to aid with blood pressure and pumps. May add milk thistle aswell if I notice any pains.

Anything I'm missing, havent covered? Any advice questions?

 

[derdog909]

IMO get some clomid for pct and while youre at it pick up some aromasin and run it throughout

 

[balboa270]

Start test week one bro cut cycle down to 12 weeks total use the dbol from first pin as well 4 weeks of dbol good stay in the 40mg a day range on test pin on mon and Thursday I would get adex to keep sides down and bloat I don't like letro but have incase my adex does not work. Nolva only is fine but up it to 40/40/20/20 I would try to add clomid as well to pct

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Definitely get some Aromasin and leave the Letro for a later cycle. I can't imagine you needing Letro on that cycle unless you are incredibly prone to gyno.

 

[Jack Reacher]

Will be cutting the cycle to 12 weeks. And yes, First 4 weeks is 2x250mg test and 40mg dbol - incase there was any confusion.

Had pubertal gyno throughout my teenage years so am very wary of it coming back/getting worse. Have letro for damage control.

Have read a fair bit of conflicting research surrounding the 40/40/20/20 protocol as opposed to the 20/20/20/20 and think I've made my mind up and will stick to the latter.

Cannot source clomid or aromasin and don't really see it as necessary for such a basic and relatively low dosed first cycle? Am I just being arrogant or am I unaware?

If I do need to run the letro it will be 1-2mg until reduction, then will continue to run 0.25mg eod for the rest of the cycle.

 

[balboa270]

Will be cutting the cycle to 12 weeks. And yes, First 4 weeks is 2x250mg test and 40mg dbol - incase there was any confusion.

Had pubertal gyno throughout my teenage years so am very wary of it coming back/getting worse. Have letro for damage control.

Have read a fair bit of conflicting research surrounding the 40/40/20/20 protocol as opposed to the 20/20/20/20 and think I've made my mind up and will stick to the latter.

Cannot source clomid or aromasin and don't really see it as necessary for such a basic and relatively low dosed first cycle? Am I just being arrogant or am I unaware?

no not ignorant, yes in reality novadex can be run like that no problem. Just make sure you are very careful with the letro it will crash your estro, its your body you will find out your correct doses you can handle on the letro in time as everyone handles it diffrent, start small

 

[essays]

I wouldn't worry too much about the letro. Your plan sounds good. I might be inclined to run it at .1ml a day right from the get go, a bottle of research chem letro lasts a long time that way.

People warn about this whole estrogen crash thing like it's the end of the world. It's not really. If you feel too dried out, back off your dosage and carry on at life, that's all.

Should note that nolvadex will reduce the effectiveness of letrozole when combined.

 

[frazier512]

IMO i think u should drop the dbol, its your first cycle and since u had pubertal gyno, u r prolly very gyno sensitive. see how your body reacts to test alone on this first cycle bro

 

[balboa270]

IMO i think u should drop the dbol, its your first cycle and since u had pubertal gyno, u r prolly very gyno sensitive. see how your body reacts to test alone on this first cycle bro

I just JEDI Mind repped ya

 

[frazier512]

i felt it!