Starting a cycle at a young age. Opinions.

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Hello, My name is Dalton and yes i am 19.

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19
5'10 worked out since i was 13. Football, baseball athlete every year up until 2013.
I was 225 with 18% body fat in feb 2014
I am NOW 179 with 12ish% bf August 2014. Pics of me will be on my page.
My diet is on point 2700 calories a day 300g protein 250g of carbs 30g of fats. I just recently did the josef rackich diet and it is exactly on point.

Ive taken Natural test boosters as well as a cycle of var at 90 mg for 6 weeks.m(how i lost a lot of weight and gained size) with cycle support and pct. Im aware now that i shouldnt have ran it alone. but no sides at all. It was real var. I assure you. Tested it and all.

I wanted to start a discussion as to why everyone advises younger people to not start a cycle of injectables?
Ive read the brilliant 3j's stickies as well as a lot of others on starter cycles. Cutting cycles etc. Obviously me being in college woman love toned ass kids. as i want to be one day. I workout twice a day. HIIT cardio on point.

So my final question is, would i really be doing that much harm onto my body with a low dosage test cycle with all on cycle support, ai's in check, pct ready to go and all of this forum helping me out along the way.
This is just a question that i am asking. Not looking for rude answers.
 
your body is currently making its own low test dose already by itself. By circumventing youd natural test at your current age you are gambling that you wont be married to the needle the rest of your life. If your not done growing yet you will be when u start injecting exogenous hormones into your body.

If you ask me, its one hell of a gamble for a piece of ass.
work on your game, lift heavy, get trim and the confidence will bring in the poon, young grasshopper
 
You are young enough that your body is still pumping out lots of endogenous testosterone. Even with a low dose of test, you will raise your serum testosterone and through negative feedback, will shut down your endogenous drive to produce anymore. What is a low dose to you, in milligrams per week of say, Test-C?

One of the real risks of using gear is frying your HPG axis, which every time is inherently shut down each time you run a cycle; your PCT will ease the transition once you stop your cycle, increasing LH to tell your testes to go to work (making testosterone and reversing the testicular atrophy you experience), but as long as your T-levels remain high from any drugs, the hypothalamic drive (release of GnRH leading to the pituitary release of LH and FSH) will be blunted, and it will take time before your body is producing a 19 year old's level of testosterone again, if ever.

Estrogenic effects can be mitigated with the use of AIs, but what are you using, what dose, where in your cycle, and for what period of time? Because you also have to consider the effects on your immune system and what you experience emotionally from the change in hormones. What about a SERM?

There are lots of reasons to tell you why not to stick yourself but with my background as a nurse, I'll argue because of your age, physiologically, you are a teen and your body is still making nearly as much testosterone on its own as a "low dose" of test would raise your serum testosterone levels to.

If it's about the ladies, do more cardio and get a tan bro, most chicks, especially your age, aren't into the body built look. Puberty doesn't completely finish until your early to mid-twenties; wait til then but continue to educate yourself and further your knowledge, not just about anabolics, but human physiology, nutrition, and exercise. Remember that your results are 80% your diet, 15% of what you do in the gym, and only 5% of whatever else you load up on.
 
If you decide to do it, dont do a low dose. You're going to be shutting your natural test anyway whether you take a low dose or a higher dose.
 
carverelli said:
your body is currently making its own low test dose already by itself. By circumventing youd natural test at your current age you are gambling that you wont be married to the needle the rest of your life. If your not done growing yet you will be when u start injecting exogenous hormones into your body.

If you ask me, its one hell of a gamble for a piece of ass.
work on your game, lift heavy, get trim and the confidence will bring in the poon, young grasshopper
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I've read this on this forum atleast a thousand times, yet the question still remains??
 
it doesnt matter what cycle you run....you're running a huge risk of PERMANENTLY messing up your natural hormones. Take it from me...I started cycling at 21, I'm now 25 and on TRT for life. Read up some on why you shouldn't cycle under 25. its no joke man.

you look good man keep training natty and by the time you're 25 you'll look like a greek god and you may decide you don't need steroids after all.
 
Ok thanks for the heart to heart. Just me getting a taste of anavar kinda has be wanting more. Is there anything you would recommend that isnt detrimental to harming my body? I was looking at clen or alb but haven't done enough research. Obviously. Im just tired of wasting money on bs pre workouts and things of that nature just to see no results. Thanks for the opinions guys.
 
i dont recommend any substances to anyone your age because you dont need them. clen can be more dangerous than any steroid. ever hear of zyzz?

anyways, we have a sponsor here called 3J nutrition. click his banner and see what he has to offer. He will get get you on a kick ass diet plan that will get you to your goals. it's cheaper than a cycle and i guarantee you will get better results with a good diet and no gear than a shitty diet with gear.
 
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OP.. great work.. youre doing something right.. keep eating.. keep growing.. look into a cycle at 25 when your hpta has fully matured..

if you do it earlier you run the risk of trt (i pin 4 times a week right now for trt).. its a change in lifestyle for sure.. be smart
 
3J said:
there are a ton of stickies on what age you should start to cycle..
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i just meant one directly aimed toward young guys thinking about cycling. A sticky specifically stating all the reasons why you should wait till 25 and all of the science behind it. i feel like most of the info on this is hidden in other stickies and not much detail is given. maybe it would be good to have a sticky just for that purpose that new users will see and read because i feel this question is brought up a lot. I would love to give it a shot, but I feel there are more suited people for the job lol.
 
you make an excellent point.. ill talk to admin and get something together on this as a sticky
jozifp103 said:
i just meant one directly aimed toward young guys thinking about cycling. A sticky specifically stating all the reasons why you should wait till 25 and all of the science behind it. i feel like most of the info on this is hidden in other stickies and not much detail is given. maybe it would be good to have a sticky just for that purpose that new users will see and read because i feel this question is brought up a lot. I would love to give it a shot, but I feel there are more suited people for the job lol.
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jozifp103 said:
i dont recommend any substances to anyone your age because you dont need them. clen can be more dangerous than any steroid. ever hear of zyzz?

anyways, we have a sponsor here called 3J nutrition. click his banner and see what he has to offer. He will get get you on a kick ass diet plan that will get you to your goals. it's cheaper than a cycle and i guarantee you will get better results with a good diet and no gear than a shitty diet with gear.
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zyzz had a heart condition, and probably did fuck tons of coke
 
SML said:
zyzz had a heart condition, and probably did fuck tons of coke
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a heart condition that could have been caused by his lifestyle choices. regardless, i'm trying to help this kid make a good decision and you're certainly not helping.
 
jozifp103 said:
if you're serious, google him. young fitness model who died way too early due to heart problems mixed with clen coke alcohol etc etc...he quoted the catch phrase "you mirin?"
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Just googled and read acouple of articles on Zyzz. Man any young guy wanting to use dive into the world of AAS should read Zyzz's life story.

Yes he had a heart condition so that should have been his main concern and chose a healthy lifestyle not partying hard and using steroids.

What a tragedy.
 
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