Starting first cycle would like your oppinion

[floyd_train]

Im nearly 25, i have never done steroids.

im thinking of doing a course of:
primo, wini and clomid

im not wanting to bloat or gain much size i was looking to cut and lose fat is this a good option.

also obvs gain some muscle mass. then once i have a lean body build on that????

 

[NastyNate500]

First cycle? Test only. You have absolutely no idea how your body is going to react to synthetic steroids. Go with Test Enanthate or Cyp. They are long esters and only require pinning twice a week to keep a consistent blood level.

Winny shouldn't be used at all unless you're prepping for a bodybuilding show. It dries you out and makes your joints ache.

Make sure you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand -- preferably Aromasin -- for signs of gyno and to help cut down on aromatization.

Get a proper post cycle therapy (pct) together. For a simple cycle, Clomid 50mg/ED for 4 weeks (started 2 weeks after last Test pin) should do just fine.

Finally, read read read read. Read everything. Don't commit to ANYTHING until you read and research. Read every stickied post in here. Read everything marked for newbies. Research before you start pumping synthetic shit into your body.

 

[linemanrick]

you clearly have done no research or even have a clue what a "steroid" is .. read the stickies here before doing anything else

 

[MeatHead96]

First cycle? Test only. You have absolutely no idea how your body is going to react to synthetic steroids. Go with Test Enanthate or Cyp. They are long esters and only require pinning twice a week to keep a consistent blood level.

Winny shouldn't be used at all unless you're prepping for a bodybuilding show. It dries you out and makes your joints ache.

Make sure you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand -- preferably Aromasin -- for signs of gyno and to help cut down on aromatization.

Get a proper post cycle therapy (pct) together. For a simple cycle, Clomid 50mg/ED for 4 weeks (started 2 weeks after last Test pin) should do just fine.

Finally, read read read read. Read everything. Don't commit to ANYTHING until you read and research. Read every stickied post in here. Read everything marked for newbies. Research before you start pumping synthetic shit into your body.

x2 you need a lot more research before you start a cycle.

 

[KaiserSose]

Oh boy...

 

[UserAt204]

Good post Nasty

 

[floyd_train]

thank you all for your input.

i have done research, but obviously not enough i suppose you can never do enough homework. i got that cycle from what i thought was a good source someone who has been doing steroids for sometime i just wanted to see how reliable it was, and yes everybody has different reactions and the result i wanted if i had doen a few cycles before would probably be a good cycle.

the problem is with test i dont want to look like i have been pumped up with air and be ballooned is there anyway i can do test with a cutting agent etc something to lower the water retention, say mid way through the course.

again thanks for your advice

 

[SigmundRoid]

thank you all for your input.

i have done research, but obviously not enough i suppose you can never do enough homework. i got that cycle from what i thought was a good source someone who has been doing steroids for sometime i just wanted to see how reliable it was, and yes everybody has different reactions and the result i wanted if i had doen a few cycles before would probably be a good cycle.

the problem is with test i dont want to look like i have been pumped up with air and be ballooned is there anyway i can do test with a cutting agent etc something to lower the water retention, say mid way through the course.

again thanks for your advice

That cycle might work for someone who has already been doing gear for a while and knows how his body reacts to all of those compounds.

Start off simple and go from there.

 

[KaiserSose]

test is the base for all cycles and personally i dont hold water at all on test , yes eeryone is different but with proper diet and proper use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you shouldnt either

 

[bigherm2121]

Run aromasin on cycle at 12.5 eod. It will keep the bloat down. With whinny all your getting is your veins popping out a bit more. Really doesn't cut you up. Dries you out and you end up gaining it all back anyway

 

[NastyNate500]

Run aromasin on cycle at 12.5 eod. It will keep the bloat down. With whinny all your getting is your veins popping out a bit more. Really doesn't cut you up. Dries you out and you end up gaining it all back anyway

Don't run EOD. Run Aromasin at 12.5mg every day. It has a half-life of ~24-27 hours. Why take it every other day so your blood level can fluctuate?

 

[bigherm2121]

Don't run EOD. Run Aromasin at 12.5mg every day. It has a half-life of ~24-27 hours. Why take it every other day so your blood level can fluctuate?

ya I meant ed.

 

[coltmc45]

All solid advice. What you do on a cycle, bulk or cut, all depends on your diet. Aromasin will cut down on bloat. So will a super clean diet, high water intake, and low sodium. Just run test with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and watch what you eat. You'll be g2g.