staying my first cycle and need to know what I need to prevent sided effects

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I am a 25 year old male weight 165 starting my first cycle of test cyp 300mg/ml stacked with trenbolone act 100mg/ml. I am probably going to go a .5ml of each twice a week to start and go from there depending on how my body reacts. I have read so much shit on the internet I don't know where to start. Pretty much I don't want my balls to shrink but that's not that big of a deal most importantly I don't want bitch tits. I heard of things like Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and arimidex and so on but have no clue what I should do. So my first question would be, is the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) they sell at Walmart the same shit I need? I'm assuming not... Secondly I would like someone to tell me what exactly I should be taking to block the test from turning into estrogen and what else I should also take to prevent these side effects. Bitch tits and the nut thing is request I'm most worried about preventing. Also can these be purchased online? As my middle man connect for the roids is no fuckin help what so ever... Someone please help soon because either way I'm starting this cycle asap. But really theses things bother me.. Oh also I was told there is a way to keep the muscle you put on after you stop your cycle by taking some supplements that help boost your natal test and reheat not. I purchased some test booter pills from Walmart. Don't know what else I can do. Please help. Thanks.
 
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First off if you think the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from walmart is the same stuff that keeps your balls from shrinking possibly you need to read a little more info and do some more research on this site. But I suppose I will give you my best advice if your are going to do it anyway.
What BF% ??
If this is your first cycle you should not be blasting Tren! You can get great results with just a test base and possibly an oral. If you are looking to bulk I would stick with a longer ester Test eth... at a dosage of 250mg twice a week... Most Sources dose at 250mg/ml so it is and easy 1ml injection twice a week.. and as for an oral a dosage of 30mg of Dbol for 1-4 weeks would be plenty to get some great results. As for your balls shrinking.... testicular atrophy is going to occur... If this is your first cycle you are not ready to be pinning Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). They will atrophy on cycle and after a PCT of Clomid/Nolva they should return back to normal. And to address the "bitch tits" ... dosing test e at 500 a week is pretty mild and you should not have any estrogen related sides but if you really wanna be safe keep some armidex on hand just in case. Use this info as a base and do some more research...especially diet related because that is the most important to obtaining results for any cycle.
There yah go simple.safe.effective

Also throw out that walmart test booster and pick up some DAA/Activate Extreme/Triazole for a pumped up PCT
 
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Sounds like you shouldn't be even considering any of this man. In your whole post you never once mentioned the most important part of a cycle: post cycle therapy (pct). also with a starting weight of 165 (not quite sure of your height) I am guessing you are scrawny as hell.

You might want to learn more about nutrition and diet for bodybuilding. If you are going to insist on starting a cycle anyways you should do some actual research before you do permanent damage to your body. There are tons of information on here for anyone who has the common sense enough to look. Read the stickies and learn before you do something you will regret for the rest of your life.
 
I'm just going to ask you a question here...did you know you can get estrogen related gyno from test AND prolactin related gyno from tren? I saw mention of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for the test, but no mention of anything for the tren (which you really shouldn't touch)...
 
Thanks proeliete, so basically I just need to get some nolvadex for post cycle and some armidex in case I see signs of gyno but not to take it unless I need it. And then take some DAA/active extreme/ triazole... Now I take it that the nolvadex and the triazole are what is going to get my body producing its own testosterone again and get my balls working which into will help me keep the weight I put on during my cycle with exception of the water weight, correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also is there anything else I could be doing while I'm doing my cycle? And also can I get the triazole over the counter like at a gnc or vitamin shoppe? And my last question is about the nolvadex, I heard cemproducts dot com is the place to go. Is that reliable our do you know of a better place? I.will give my email if you don't wanna post such a place on an open thread I understand but Yo be honest I lied Earley. I already started my cycle last week. Yes I know I'm an idiot and I know I went into this unrepaired and blindly. Please I ain't need 100 purple yelling me how stupid I am on this thread. I'm just a average guy in need of a little help. If you don't wish to help that's fine but no need to be a dick.
Also I am 5'10 and my bf is around 15 20 can't be positive. And no not scrawny as hell. I'm just not jacked. I got my weight up to 195 2 years who with no roids then got into a car accident. I have always worked out my while life. But now Hecate of a few reasons I'm not going to get into out is very hard for me to put on weight. Yes I have my diet correct and all that. I just want a little help with the juice this time around that is all.
Also I an sorry for any misspellings I'm on my cell and I have store texting and its a bitch to go back and correct this thing on here.
 
Thanks proeliete, so basically I just need to get some nolvadex for post cycle and some armidex in case I see signs of gyno but not to take it unless I need it. And then take some DAA/active extreme/ triazole... Now I take it that the nolvadex and the triazole are what is going to get my body producing its own testosterone again and get my balls working which into will help me keep the weight I put on during my cycle with exception of the water weight, correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also is there anything else I could be doing while I'm doing my cycle? And also can I get the triazole over the counter like at a gnc or vitamin shoppe? And my last question is about the nolvadex, I heard cemproducts dot com is the place to go. Is that reliable our do you know of a better place? I.will give my email if you don't wanna post such a place on an open thread I understand but Yo be honest I lied Earley. I already started my cycle last week. Yes I know I'm an idiot and I know I went into this unrepaired and blindly. Please I ain't need 100 purple yelling me how stupid I am on this thread. I'm just a average guy in need of a little help. If you don't wish to help that's fine but no need to be a dick.
Also I am 5'10 and my bf is around 15 20 can't be positive. And no not scrawny as hell. I'm just not jacked. I got my weight up to 195 2 years who with no roids then got into a car accident. I have always worked out my while life. But now Hecate of a few reasons I'm not going to get into out is very hard for me to put on weight. Yes I have my diet correct and all that. I just want a little help with the juice this time around that is all.
Also I an sorry for any misspellings I'm on my cell and I have store texting and its a bitch to go back and correct this thing on here.
 
Iron Giant. No I didn't know about the prolactin related gyno from the tren. Is there any supplement or hormone I can add to deal with this danger?
 
first off i would check your dosages, ive never seen cyp dosed at 300... usualy 200 or 250

The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) you need is NOT SOLD AT WALMART haha, it is possible to get a prescription but not really, you will be left to get from a UGL, comes in a vial or ampule, 5000mg most of the time, you will need to follow instructions in mixing it properly

AI's : Aromisin, Armidex, and letro

dude look around, you will find everything you need, ex: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/614947-first-cycle-pct.html

you need to make sure to plan a proper PCT or else everything is useless
 
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Ok brother lemme see if I can help.


Standard protocol for post cycle therapy (pct) will be a clomid/nolva combo (read the "standard post cycle therapy (pct)" sticky on front page for dosing instructions as well as when to start your post cycle therapy (pct) and for how long". These are not over the counter so get on the web and find a source. Get this stuff on the way so it will be on hand when you finish your cycle.

Understand that you need to have both of these drugs for a proper post cycle. By doing a "by the book" post cycle therapy (pct) you greatly reduce the chance of sides and you will keep much more of your gains. Remember that drastic fluctuations in your test lvls is what increases your chances of major side effects.

Watch for sides like sensitive nips, emotional mood swings, etc. If these start to occur you need to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like amridex (although adex is not my personal choice but it will work)

I shudder at the thought of you doing tren without all your post cycle therapy (pct), and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ducks in a row. As a wise man once told me " tren aint nobodies bitch, and damm sure aint not bullshit to take lightly" Usually a first timer will want to do test only cycle to get a base line on how your body will respond. Due to the test/tren stack you are doing if you have a bad reaction you will have no idea whether it is the tren or test you are reacting too.

So here is your game plan

1st get on the net and get some clomid, and nolva, as well whatever Aromatase inhibitor (AI) u choose
2nd watch like a hawk for sides.
3rd dont go changing up your dose unless you are going down ( or completely dropping the tren) due to sides.

I would rather have seen you do like 500 mg of test per week with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for the water and estro and a proper post cycle therapy (pct), but no use in crying over spilled milk.


Good luck brother
 
Re: Rough Neck...
Ok so, so far I only did one week, two injections of 150 mg of test cyp and 50mg of tren. One injection on Saturday and one on Tuesday for a total of 300mg of test and 100mg of tren. Next week I was planning to up my doses to 500mg of test 250 on sat and 250 on Tuesday and keeping the tren where its at and stay at that dose for the rest of my 10 week cycle. Is it to late to just straight up stop the tren? because im thinking if I stop the tren now I'm afraid I will get post cycle sides and be fucked because I can't start a post cycle therapy (pct) while still doing a cycle of test. And the reason I only started at 300mg a week of the test was because of conflicting things I was hearing from everyone and I wanted to see how I reacted first.

Now Aromatase inhibitor (AI) treatment is for if I start to get bitch tits and shit right? Sorry I'm just so new to this shit. I have done so much reading on this but everyone says something different and its hard to understand when you don't know the lingo or the terms and abbreviations. And if you don't prefer amridex what would you suggest? And thanks again for all your input. Once I figure out exactly what I need and where I can get it I'm ordering it this week.
 
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Also I have been reading a lot of other threads.
Should I be using amridex right now during my cycle? If so how much and how often. And if not what else should I be adding. Don't think I'm going to be going with the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this time around. Any thoughts?
 
Also my nuts are getting a little tender..i wouldn't say they are sore but just slightly tender to the touch. Is this normal or should I be ordering some Aromatase inhibitor (AI) asap? I figure if they are gonna shrink and stop working then the soreness is just part of the game.
 
Yeah man the gonna get a little tender and will start to shrink. An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) won't help that but Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will.
 
your 165lbs??? how tall are you? unless your 5'4 your no where ready for a cycle... your diet is shit... and dont give me that crap about your diet being fine.. if it was fine then you wouldn't be 165lbs.. unless your 5'4
 
I'm 510 and I'm 180 actually just weighed my self. I'm on methadone 110mg a day cause a car accident guy me hooked on pain meds.. Its extremely hard to gain weight on methadone no matter what you eat. If you're gonna be a cunt go bitch on someone elses post asshole. I.asked for advice not little cunts taking shit.
 
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