Steroid Acne

[Chewbaca]

Stats: 25, 5'10, 216lbs bf 12%
Lifting pretty much all my life.

So two questions for you guys:

1.)I did a cycle of sus 250 years ago back when i was 23. i was foolish, and extremely stupid. I was under the wrong influence and i mistakenly got on a 6 week of 1 shot/w with no pct after. To this day i remember the horrible acne which followed couple of weeks after my last shot, which lasted about a month or two... It was bad... Really F***ing bad...

2 years of natural training later, here i am, 216lbs, not getting bigger ( and i'm asian so yea i am smaller in stature...)

So naturally, i've been having thoughts of crossing over to the dark side once again... This time, however, i have done adequate research. About estrogen related acne, hormonal imbalance, DHT, bacteria, clomid induced acne, everything.

I've also researched on the possible ways to counter the ailment, some says tanning, some says dawn soap, some says B5, the list goes on.

Well my general concern is, if 250 gave me shit bad acne last time, wouldn't 500 aggravate the condition like nobody's business? well i've done alot of research this past 2 years regarding this subject matter and i have pretty much everything on hand, only thing i'm lacking is confidence.

I'm still really paranoid, so i was wondering if any of you could share your experience with me, whether any of you have similar experiences or heard of any such cases...

2.)The bout with acne ( first in my life ) really left me scared, and owing to that i even considered doing a Deca only cycle ( MUCH to the general disapproval ) to see how it works out... well i was really contemplating between Deca/Test and here are some of my questions.

As much as alot of people claim deca dick to be a problem while they are on the cycle, (HPTA shut down etc), my question is... wouldn't deca then be counterproductive?... I mean... test is for muscle building. Without test the body would be in totally catabolic state where your muscles would be eaten up left right and centre... but yet a lot of people have claimed to have really good gains off deca. Deca Dick OR NOT/ the gains stayed, that's one thing for sure. So i was thinking, where's the truth behind that? Maybe there was test in the body and the deca dick was a result of something else?

As far as deca related acne goes, haven't really found much reports about that.
However, deca related gyno. A lot of people suggests using caber and bromo, my question is, is that readily available OTC? or do i need a prescription for that? What are the other available options? B6 i heard, but well, nothing substantiated.


Any help would be deeply appreciated people!We're all here to help and learn, i would sincerely appreciate any comments but as far as snide/harsh comments go, i could really do without that, cheers!

 

[Chewbaca]

anybody?

 

[numba1scrapper]

It really depends all on the individual using to be honest, in highschool I had one of the worst cases of acne possible which steered me clear away from aas for the same reason however when I ran my first cycle I dont remember getting a single pimple.

This aside, you DID run Sust which wouldnt be a good choice at all if your worried about acne considering there 4 different kinds of test in it. A single mild test such as test prop would be a better choice. You can expect great gains while side effects have said to be less mild. The only downside to prop would be more frequent injections, but if you are like me when I had acne, your probably willing to do almosy anything to avoid it.

The negatives will far outweigh the positives in a deca alone cycle, lets leave it at that.


Summary recap - You want to juice but keep the acne to a minimum do a 500mg cycle of test prop.... That or just do a 6 month cycle of Accutane and wipe the acne out for good.

 

[jimbo79]

anybody?

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/588658-backne-really-hepled-mine.html

 

[Chewbaca]

Thanks for the response guys!

Well, now that i think about it, it wasn't quite that unbearable at all. I mean, i had a couple of cystic acne on my shoulders/forearms and a couple of zits lying around my chest/back. But yea, for someone who've never had any body acne all his life, that really came down on me hard, got me real depressed and i pretty much just sat around on my ass waiting it out, not doing anything about it.

Well i'm just worried 500mg would tear me apart. You know... double the dosage/ double the sides :/

Anyway, i think my acne's mostly estrogen related. Didn't get any on cycle, but i crashed and burned when i came off... So other than frequent washing/using B.p 5%/vit B5/apple cider aloe vera method etc etc, what's really important is to have a good post cycle therapy (pct), keep estrogen in check and boost test levels back a.s.a.p right?

Thanks a bunch guys, been really helpful!

P/s, i honestly thought about doing prop too, but well, as much as it leaves your system quickly, some would say, test is test... and i was thinking, from my last injection till post cycle therapy (pct) i have a good 15 days to really try out all the different methods/routes when my acne really kicks in...

And also, accutane is sort of out of the question here. It's dirt expensive where i come from, would easily outcost the whole cycle!

Anybody extremely prone to acne? Come on i need all the help i can get guys!

 

[numba1scrapper]

Thanks for the response guys!

Well, now that i think about it, it wasn't quite that unbearable at all. I mean, i had a couple of cystic acne on my shoulders/forearms and a couple of zits lying around my chest/back. But yea, for someone who've never had any body acne all his life, that really came down on me hard, got me real depressed and i pretty much just sat around on my ass waiting it out, not doing anything about it.

Well i'm just worried 500mg would tear me apart. You know... double the dosage/ double the sides :/

Anyway, i think my acne's mostly estrogen related. Didn't get any on cycle, but i crashed and burned when i came off... So other than frequent washing/using B.p 5%/vit B5/apple cider aloe vera method etc etc, what's really important is to have a good post cycle therapy (pct), keep estrogen in check and boost test levels back a.s.a.p right?

Thanks a bunch guys, been really helpful!

P/s, i honestly thought about doing prop too, but well, as much as it leaves your system quickly, some would say, test is test... and i was thinking, from my last injection till post cycle therapy (pct) i have a good 15 days to really try out all the different methods/routes when my acne really kicks in...

And also, accutane is sort of out of the question here. It's dirt expensive where i come from, would easily outcost the whole cycle!

Anybody extremely prone to acne? Come on i need all the help i can get guys!

Dude, your not getting it. Test is Test YES, but think of it this way. A 9mm gun shot into your chest would hurt correct? Well picture 4 DIFFERENT 9mm gun shots all shot at the same time into your chest.. That would hurt more now wouldnt it?

Sust has FOUR different kinds of Testosterones man, I've ran 3 cycles already and I myself have not manned up to start a SUST cycle.. I probably will next time around, but the point is you will get varied results/side effects from 500mg of SUST compared to Prop.


All of what I just said aside, it all boils down to money and determination. Money can afford you accutane where you can juice while killing acne all togeather. Determination comes into play when deciding whether you really want to get big or not. You wanna complain about a few little pimples on your back? STAY SMALL, its as easy as that.

 

[24than]

Dude, your not getting it. Test is Test YES, but think of it this way. A 9mm gun shot into your chest would hurt correct? Well picture 4 DIFFERENT 9mm gun shots all shot at the same time into your chest.. That would hurt more now wouldnt it?

Sust has FOUR different kinds of Testosterones man, I've ran 3 cycles already and I myself have not manned up to start a SUST cycle.. I probably will next time around, but the point is you will get varied results/side effects from 500mg of SUST compared to Prop.


All of what I just said aside, it all boils down to money and determination. Money can afford you accutane where you can juice while killing acne all togeather. Determination comes into play when deciding whether you really want to get big or not. You wanna complain about a few little pimples on your back? STAY SMALL, its as easy as that.

just my experiance...

In my first cycle (boldenone and litlle testosterone enanthate), I had NONE acna, then surprisly they show up at the "bridge" with stanozolol (but it was quite huge dose, even 200mg/day...do not as why...)
then I went off everything, start good solid post cycle therapy (pct), but eventually I had worst acna in my life!!! It was even that bad, that I eneded up in hospital for furder testing (they test DHT for exemple ant it was even low, so it was really mistery). I got roaccutan (accutan) and acna gone crazy, my back and chest was so painful, that no body could touch me...
interisting then was, that I self added HGH in larger doses and woila, roaccutan and HGH did miracle, acna gone completly, only scars are left behind...now even on tren I do not notise any acna, and if one pop show up, I use FUCIDIN antibiotic cream and it is gone overnight...
I gues that we will never know what gone so bedly wrong, but oviesly androgens did not have that huge influence...

At the moment I use 1,5g sustanon (legit, sure of it) a week and NO acna issues...

I have bought extra vit B5 powder just in case.
that endless fear that situation could happen again is F*CK...

p.s.
sorry for bad english...I usually do not parcitipate just becouse of that, but I needed to share that

 

[MGunz]

just my experiance...

In my first cycle (boldenone and litlle testosterone enanthate), I had NONE acna, then surprisly they show up at the "bridge" with stanozolol (but it was quite huge dose, even 200mg/day...do not as why...)
then I went off everything, start good solid post cycle therapy (pct), but eventually I had worst acna in my life!!! It was even that bad, that I eneded up in hospital for furder testing (they test DHT for exemple ant it was even low, so it was really mistery). I got roaccutan (accutan) and acna gone crazy, my back and chest was so painful, that no body could touch me...
interisting then was, that I self added HGH in larger doses and woila, roaccutan and HGH did miracle, acna gone completly, only scars are left behind...now even on tren I do not notise any acna, and if one pop show up, I use FUCIDIN antibiotic cream and it is gone overnight...
I gues that we will never know what gone so bedly wrong, but oviesly androgens did not have that huge influence...

At the moment I use 1,5g sustanon (legit, sure of it) a week and NO acna issues...

I have bought extra vit B5 powder just in case.
that endless fear that situation could happen again is F*CK...

p.s.
sorry for bad english...I usually do not parcitipate just becouse of that, but I needed to share that

thanks for sharing. And you're English is fine. I'm American and it's probably better than mine
anyway, what dose and how long did you run Accutane? How long did you wait to cycle once you stopped the accutane?

 

[Chewbaca]

thanks for all the info guys!

Started on 500mg test E per week.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

 

[lartinos]

Give acnetame a shot from NTBM
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[Natehayes]

Check the sticky about 300mg vs 600mg of test. There is a part about acne being mroe of a problem at the 300mg dose. That certainly has been my experience.

 

[ECKSRATED]

Accutane is loaded with vitamin A. Try going to gnc and getting a bottle of vitamin A and taking it a couple times during the day. My buddy has really bad acne and he's always telling me about things that help getting rid of it. Vit a is one and he also drinks raw apple cider vinegar a couple times a day and washes His face with it, obviously he dillutes it in water but it has worked for him. Be careful with the vit A as too much of it is no good for you.

 

[lartinos]

Accutane is loaded with vitamin A. Try going to gnc and getting a bottle of vitamin A and taking it a couple times during the day. My buddy has really bad acne and he's always telling me about things that help getting rid of it. Vit a is one and he also drinks raw apple cider vinegar a couple times a day and washes His face with it, obviously he dillutes it in water but it has worked for him. Be careful with the vit A as too much of it is no good for you.

It is a synthetic form of vitamin A.Vitamin A is dangerous at high doses I'd stay away. Acnetame is much safer and effective.
Here's the full write-up.
"Acne is an issue that millions of people suffer from on a daily basis. Topical treatments are some of the most popular current treatments that are being used to todaY.
Unfortunately, topical treatments do not work from the inside out and are better used in conjunction with an oral treatment. An effective topical solution comes in the form of benzoyl peroxide. Cheap, effective, and readily available to anyone. Most drug stores carry it. There are a few popular oral acne pills that are available by presciption as well. They all come with very serious side effects.

Acne-tame is a safe side effect free product that may help prevent acne.


Pantothenic Acid- Pantothenic acid, also called vitamin B5 (a B vitamin), is a water-soluble vitamin required to sustain life (essential nutrient).
A study published in 1995 by Dr. Lit-Hung Leung showed high doses of vitamin B5 resolved acne and decreased pore size. Dr. Leung also proposes a mechanism, stating that Co-Enzyme A regulates both hormones and fatty-acids, and without sufficient quantities of pantothenic acid, Co-Enzyme A will preferentially produce androgens. This causes fatty acids to build up and be excreted through sebaceous glands and causes acne. Unfortunatley the dosages used in the study deplete vital nutrients and can also cause gastrointestinal distress.

N-acetyl-L-cysteine Is a non-essential amino acid, which means that it is biosynthesized in humans. Co-enzyme A is made up of Pantothenic Acid, Cysteine, and ATP.
Since the demand for Co-Enzyme A increases in adolescence, the need for Cysteine must increase. Cysteine is a sulfur amino acid that is heavily used in building keratin, which is an important constituent of the skin (which increases largely in size during adolescence), growing wanted and unwanted hair, and also used in forming nails. Administration of Cysteine is the only means by which we can reduce the dose of Pantothenic Acid to prevent acne. N-Acetyl Cysteine is a derivative of cysteine wherein an acetyl group is attached to the nitrogen atom. This more powerful version is used as a pharmaceutical drug in some countries.

Vitamin A- Is a fat soluble vitamin, meaning it is best absorbed in the presence of some fat. It is beneficial for night vision, night blindness, aids in hormone production, and maintains the integrity of the mucous membranes, respiratory, urinary, and digestive tracts. It also aids in the growth of the skin, teeth, and bones, as well as improving immune system function. At very high doses it is very effective for treating acne, but the side effects are not worth it at all because it will build up into a toxic level in your body. It is added at a low doseage to Acnetame to help fight acne, but not to give the dangerous side effects. Accutane is a synthetic form of Vitamin A.

Selenium- Selenium is an essential micronutrient needed throughout life in small quantities. Selenium is a trace mineral that is a component of glutathione peroxidase. Glutathione peroxidase is an antioxidant and detoxifying enzyme. For best results in fighting acne, selenium should be taken regulary for an extended period of time.

Chromium- Helps control the insulin insensivity that is caused by our Western diet built on carbs/sugar. There are numerous studies that show natives who live on a diet of non-refined sugars, veggies and meat do not have acne, but when put on a Western diet, they develope acne.

Piperine- By inhibiting drug metabolism, piperine increases the bioavailability of various compounds. Thereby making Acnetame's ingredients stronger.

Biotin- As enzyme co-factors, Biotin and Vitamin B5 function in concert for many body processes. Symptoms of biotin deficiency include:
Hair loss (alopecia)
Conjunctivitis
Dermatitis in the form of a scaly red rash around the eyes, nose, mouth, and genital area.
Neurological symptoms in adults such as depression, lethargy, hallucination, and numbness and tingling of the extremities.

Niacin- Also known as vitamin B3, is known for the flushed feeling some users report from it. It also works in concert for far better results in fighting acne when teamed with other B vitamins than when used alone.

Co-Q10- CoQ10's key role is producing adenosine triphosphate (ATP), upon which all cellular functions depend. Secondary to that, CoQ10 functions as a powerful antioxidant and is essential for healthy youthful skin. It is a naturally occurring nutrient found in every living cell of your body, and provides the source of all cellular energy for building new cells and tissue for smooth, firm skin."

 

[StageII]

How is the acne holding up on your cycle so far Chewbaca?

 

[MrCynical]

I just came off a 12 week cycle of omnadren 250 running 3ccs a week. During week 8 of my cycle i started 80mg a day of accutane, blood work was just done and liver and kidneys are both only slightly above normal, dermatologist said that was normal with the accutane nothing to worrk about. Oh and btw, this "accutane" should be called the acne magic pill. Sides are not bad, dry chapped lips(just get some carmax) dry skin(lotion)sore joints(flex-joint supp) and you piss alot from the niacin. My skin is just ab completly clear and its only goin on week 6 of the accutane running it for 16 weeks.