still shut down, doc j and others advice

[simpllyhuge]

any way i was on test for a few years, i dont expect a rapid post cycle therapy (pct), i know i was stupid and it will take time.


i took aromasin for about 3 weeks and 100mg of clomid and 40mg of novla. Im now on 50 mg of clomid and 40mg of novla.

my balls are fully back to size, and they seem pretty plump lol. However my sex drive is still shot and i feel like a bitch.

im going to have blood work done in the next few days, but i was thinking maybe my body responded to so much test over the years by building up shbg and now thats why i dont feel the effects of my natural test, assuming my natural test is working to some degree since my balls are staying big with no hcg.

any thoughts. I think its been about about 5-6 weeks since i started my pct.

 

[Lucky13]

I thought u were on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for low test levels anyway ?

 

[Aztech]

a few years...nice...how old are you?

 

[DocJ]

Well, I wasn't on for years straight but I know you're aware of my cycling history and it took me about 8-9 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) to feel "normal." The boys were back in business after about 4 weeks. The one thing we do know is that things do get back to normal eventually. There have been studies on this and even men who don't do any post cycle therapy (pct) recover eventually, just not as fast so the odds are in your favor. Let us know how the bloodwork comes out.

 

[Aztech]

man, if you guys were on that long and those are the recovery times, i'm going on a long cycle next...how long can i run tren before i have 'problems'?

 

[DocJ]

man, if you guys were on that long and those are the recovery times, i'm going on a long cycle next...how long can i run tren before i have 'problems'?

Tren is notorious for giving the HPTA a serious beat-down. How long a cycle are we talking here?

 

[lartinos]

I like igf-1 to help get me back to normal

 

[Aztech]

Tren is notorious for giving the HPTA a serious beat-down. How long a cycle are we talking here?

I was originally thinking 8-10 weeks which is pretty standard but i've got enough for a year if i so desired...

 

[biggest loser fat loss]

IMO the longer the cycle the better as long as your bloodwork is coming back ok. I dont plan on coming off ever again unless I develop problems.

 

[Aztech]

IMO the longer the cycle the better as long as your bloodwork is coming back ok. I dont plan on coming off ever again unless I develop problems.

Damn, now that's a commitment

 

[simpllyhuge]

well my test levels were shitty when i was 18-21. they were like in the low 500's normal being about 300-1100. I didnt have a strong sex drive and had a very long refractory period. I saw a few doctors and never found an answer so i took things into my own hands.

now im just coming off because i was loosing too much hair for my age and i also want to make sure i can have kids one day, im only 24 by the way.

id also like to get blood work done and figure out why i naturally have always had a shitty sex drive. First thou i want to make sure my test levels are recovered.

im gonna get free test, total test,shbg. any others neccasary? oh, also proclatin because i heard that high proclatin levels could be the cause of a shitty sex drive and refractory period, however i think once before i had them tested and they were normal.

 

[simpllyhuge]

also im thinking about adding aromasin back in, is this a bad idea. i figure i have zero sex drive now so low estrogen isnt gonna hurt.

 

[Dieselry]

this is interesting post .. i deff cant give you any advice but i to would like to some day be able to basically be on gear for long peroids of time

 

[Dieselry]

ps hope everything works out for u 2 bro

 

[outlawtas]

After being on for years your gonna need more than 3 or 4 weeks to recover! keep doing what your doing. Keep up with the post cycle therapy (pct) and get regular bloodwork done.

 

[simpllyhuge]

ok how should i keep the post cycle therapy (pct) dosages? should i stay at 100mg of clomid and 40mg of novla.

 

[Lucky13]

well my test levels were shitty when i was 18-21. they were like in the low 500's normal being about 300-1100. I didnt have a strong sex drive and had a very long refractory period. I saw a few doctors and never found an answer so i took things into my own hands.

now im just coming off because i was loosing too much hair for my age and i also want to make sure i can have kids one day, im only 24 by the way.

id also like to get blood work done and figure out why i naturally have always had a shitty sex drive. First thou i want to make sure my test levels are recovered.

im gonna get free test, total test,shbg. any others neccasary? oh, also proclatin because i heard that high proclatin levels could be the cause of a shitty sex drive and refractory period, however i think once before i had them tested and they were normal.

Get your DHT levels checked especially if your on fin/dut, DHT is important for sex drive .... are you taking any BP meds /anxiety meds ??

 

[Old Balls]

I had heard that once you are shut down, you are shut down regardless of time on...so if you are shut down for a 3 month cycle, it's the same as a 3 year cycle...

 

[Aztech]

I had heard that once you are shut down, you are shut down regardless of time on...so if you are shut down for a 3 month cycle, it's the same as a 3 year cycle...

As long as that 3 year cycle doesn't permanently shut you down

 

[DocJ]

I had heard that once you are shut down, you are shut down regardless of time on...so if you are shut down for a 3 month cycle, it's the same as a 3 year cycle...

From a biochemical standpoint this is true, however, practical experience has shown that there is at least a mild correlation between time on and recovery of the HPTA long term.