Stopping steroids and getting on trt?
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Megatron28
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I have blue Cross for insurance and they cover my TRT prescription meds - including injectable testosterone. I get 10ml vials from Walgreens.
Although, I use goodrx coupons as well since it is cheaper than paying the insurance price.
Try switching pharmacies and tell them you want the 10ml vial. Make sure your doc prescribes a 10ml vial too.
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If you do it through an online hormone clinic this won't matter, you do the registration, give them access to your physicians medical records to show you've had a physical within the last 6 months. Then you submit your blood work which could be done through privatemdlabs.
Say OP comes off test c today, when should he go to do his blood work?
How should he conduct using arimidex for the next couple weeks up to doing the blood work?
Am I right in thinking OP should get some test base and test prop on hand? it's gonna be nice to restore some test levels after dropping down to basically nothing for this blood work. Who knows how long it might take to get that first script, the less time shut down the better....
Roush
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Why does he have to drop down to basically no test to get on TRT?
My dad got on trt and his total test was 400,, these clinics are not specializing in treating extreme hypogonadism,, they preach "optimal" health,, so if your test level is 400 - 500 and you could be more "optimal" at 900-1200,, then they'll put u on trt (plus they wanna make a buck and don't care how low you are)
Megatron28
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How will he get to 400ng/dl and get an appropriate LH/FSH reading for a doctor to put him on TRT? What are you thinking he can do so that he doesn't have to come off?
Roush
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New alias is saying that OP has to bring his total testosterone down to basically zero for him to get put on TRT.. I'm saying,, why? Why does he have to get that low to go on trt?
A trt clinic, anti aging clinic, will put him on trt even if his levels are normal (he just has to pay them).
Can't he just do a standard pct.. Then down the road go get on trt anytime he wants?
UNLESS - he is trying to get diagnosed for hypogonadism and go through his personal doctor and insurance.. But if not, call a Florida anti aging clinic or walk into your local trt clinic, tell them you want on trt and prepare to write a check.
Megatron28
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Sure. I suppose you can always find a doctor that plays fast and loose with a medical diagnosis if you look long enough and are willing to pay enough. But is the premium that he will have to pay for this service worth it? OP will have to answer that question for himself.
I was referring to going through a traditional doctor in my posts.
Roush
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Here's a pic of blood test results taken at a trt clinic.. You'll probably be surprised megaton They test the bare minimum!
I'm just saying the OP has options. .
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carverelli
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I'm guessing even if he comes off and does a proper pct, he might even be at 400 total. Chances are that it might even be lower than that.
We don't know his age or history with aas. He can always get private bloods done prior to his appt with a doc to see where he is.
A think I would see if there is an issue before I discuss all the different remedies to a situation that may never arise
We don't know his age or history with aas. He can always get private bloods done prior to his appt with a doc to see where he is.
A think I would see if there is an issue before I discuss all the different remedies to a situation that may never arise
My Doc has prescribed a 10ml vial. Walgreens here told me they only deal with 1ml vials. The coupon through good rx reduces the price but makes 10ml at 1ml a shot $140 total. So, I'm currently going to CVS. As far as Blue Cross Blue Shield, either it's my state, or the plan. I'm with Arizona Blue Cross Blue Shield. I spoke with them yesterday. Even though they sent paperwork to get the continuation of injectable testosterone justified, and my doctor filled it out, they just replied that it is now a plan exclusion. I called them to confirm yesterday.
As for HCG I have script, but I'm going to continue getting my hcg from UGL's. It's much cheaper. The only pharmacy that I can get HCG from is a local compounding pharmacy, and goodrx.com does not have a coupon for them. 10,000iu (which is the only way they can get it) is $169. I can get 10,000iu for as cheap as $50 for Ovigil, or $90 for Pregnyl. I'll stick with the UGL's.
siq
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Well sure if you go to one of those shady "Health Clinics" then i'm sure they'll prescribe u anything as long as u got the money. But as far as going to a regular Dr, his test has got to be extremely low or i doubt they'll give it to em. A normal Doc will most likely just give him the testosterone cream.
Roush
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thats sometimes the problem with normal docs.. my family doc told me I should be taking 150 mg of test once every two weeks.. wtf.. all that would do is shut me down, have my levels still low, and fluctuating all over the place by injection only once every two weeks..
docs usually want to treat a symptom, put a band aid on and 'stop the bleeding' sort of speak,, they think if someone is 'normal' and at acceptable levels,, that that is ok and good..
screw normal,, I'd prefer to be optimal
Mprtz
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I don't get it. Why are the clinics shady? Because they give the paying customer what they want without making you jump through all the hoops that other doctors do? Because they acknowledge that guys may look and feel better and younger at high T levels, rather than focusing solely on morbidity?
Because they treat you like an informed and responsible consumer rather than a hapless dunce who needs the protection of a medical nanny to save you from yourself?
siq
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Prescribing HGH and anabolic steroids to patients just seems like a gray area to me (shady). Who knows what else they'll perscribe with the right ammount of co-pay. Probably stuff like oxycontin for backpain etc...stuff like that.
Roush
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It's not gray, IMO..
There is a health condition that exists and the docs are treating the condition and can prescribe whatever FDA approved drug they deem necessary.. The condition is called 'aging' and the negatives are that once a man turns around 35 years of age he begins to develop the symptom of muscle wasting (the aging body begins to loose muscle year after year and the metabolism slows down and more fat is stored).. This is a legitimate health condition worth treating,,
So if the dr recommends diet and training, as well as prescribing hgh and AAS compounds, to combat this 'disease' and help the patient live a more active fit life style and slow down this disease and condition. Then great. Why not take advantage of the advances in medicine.
AAS is a legitimate FDA approved medicine to treat conditions..
There is a health condition that exists and the docs are treating the condition and can prescribe whatever FDA approved drug they deem necessary.. The condition is called 'aging' and the negatives are that once a man turns around 35 years of age he begins to develop the symptom of muscle wasting (the aging body begins to loose muscle year after year and the metabolism slows down and more fat is stored).. This is a legitimate health condition worth treating,,
So if the dr recommends diet and training, as well as prescribing hgh and AAS compounds, to combat this 'disease' and help the patient live a more active fit life style and slow down this disease and condition. Then great. Why not take advantage of the advances in medicine.
AAS is a legitimate FDA approved medicine to treat conditions..
siq
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I agree. To some extent I'm only playing devils advocate. Guys who live the life like you and me realize the serious benefit in these clinics. However, the general public looks way down on steroid use, as well as most regular doctors. Not just for cosmetic purposes, but in general including trt. So to me no its not really shady...but to most people
