Strength gains

[IndigoChild]

Ok quick question.

With the exception of tren, what cycle would you run (test based of course) as a second cycle for best pure strength gains, i wanna try to avoid tren due to the sides and i still like to do cardio..

dont wanna gain TOO much weight though, but i know thats dependent on diet and cardio.

DISCUSS!

 

[Bobbyc818]

I like to keep it simple either test e or test c. Easy to pin and no sides with very good gains

 

[IndigoChild]

I like to keep it simple either test e or test c. Easy to pin and no sides with very good gains

i plan to run test e but what kind of dose and what not?
i may frontload with dbol

first cycle is Sustanon (sust) 350, 700mgs/wk

 

[tbonexl]

I would say your g2g with 700mgs/week. That's provided u got all your ducks in a row..

 

[Spidermannn]

Im running test E at 600 to 700 mg/wk. Ive gone up 30 to 40 pounds in all my lifts. Probably could do a lot heavier, but i dont want to hurt myself. Ive only ran test so, no experience with any other substances. Good luck

 

[Bret5089]

Hey I'm just curious, what did you have for sides? Ive heard both good and bad from tren.

 

[IndigoChild]

i dont wanna run tren, too many side effects and as for the frontload i may do halotestin instead cas dbol will back too much weight on me and i heard halo gets your strength through the roof!

also what do you guys think about deca? i heard it helps build connective tissue which if i train for strength im gonna need

 

[jonesfarm]

This is a no brainer for strength gains test and halo, you will get stronger with proper diet using these two.

 

[thades]

Halo will definitely have your strength up, but is arguably the harshest oral for your liver, make sure you have some cycle supports.

If you can get your hands on some test suspension/TNE that is honestly the best thing you could run for strength. Not suggesting this for anyone to do, but pin 200mg of suspension 1.5 hours before you train...you won't even know who you are. IMHO suspension blows drol/halo/tren/var out of the water in terms of strength.

 

[inhuman2008]

i cant wait to try halo...soon very soon

 

[FerrisBueller]

I like to keep it simple either test e or test c. Easy to pin and no sides with very good gains

This right here. But I would prefer sustanon.

 

[jonesfarm]

I like to keep it simple either test e or test c. Easy to pin and no sides with very good gains

This right here. But I would prefer sustanon.

Really? He asked for test based cycle? Not test only.

 

[Sharmacus]

I would say your g2g with 700mgs/week. That's provided u got all your ducks in a row..

Nice analogy. But I'm not sure what it means? Haha. Anyway, surely 500MG would be a better starting point for a first time test user?

 

[KingBF]

Nice analogy. But I'm not sure what it means? Haha. Anyway, surely 500MG would be a better starting point for a first time test user?

in the 3rd post in this thread the op stated he used 700mg's of Sustanon (sust) a wk for his first cycle. but yes im with you it seems a bit overkill

 

[Sharmacus]

Really? He asked for test based cycle? Not test only.

Are you a girl? Unsure if real avi or not haha.

in the 3rd post in this thread the op stated he used 700mg's of Sustanon (sust) a wk for his first cycle. but yes im with you it seems a bit overkill

Yeah. But he should see how his body reacts to testosterone enanthate before going over 500MG in my opinion. Better to be safe than sorry, especially when it comes to your health.

 

[jonesfarm]

Are you a girl? Unsure if real avi or not haha.
Are you a cocksucker?

 

[IndigoChild]

so hows about test e at 500mgs/wk 1-12, halo 20mgs wk 1-4, and Anavar (var) 50mgs ED wk 6-12?

i will run heavy liver support for halo but i figure since the dose isnt too high for too long (for the sake of going up in later cycles, i feel like im gonna love the stuff) and the Anavar (var) since i have a bottle of 59 10mgs pills, so i might aswell buy another bottle and cycle it! also Anavar (var) isnt quite as toxic. and lastly Anavar (var) will help me keep the strength and most importantly increase collagen synthesis!!!

opinions??

HCG through cycle, proper post cycle therapy (pct) and what not (before i get jumped on for that)

 

[IndigoChild]

bump cas im excited for this cycle

 

[jonesfarm]

It looks good to me but I might swap the Anavar (var) and do it first then halo last. Halo will give your muscles a dense hard look. You should be the leanest at the end of your cycle. I understand your reasoning though about keeping your strength, doing he Anavar (var) last. I'm currently on my 4th week of halo and I have went from 100 lb. dumbbell shoulder press to 120 lb. dumbells for a several reps. I'm doing 30 mgs before my workouts.

 

[Sharmacus]

Are you a cocksucker?

Nope never have been sorry. It was a legitimate question I asked, why retaliate?