Sus + 2 19nors for second cycle help!

[yokeboy]

Hi Guys,

Stats: 6'2 - 190lbs - 15%bf

My first was sus500 (or supposedly, it was called super test 500) ran with no problems but i ran arimidex. My second cycle was suggested by a PA and he is huge and has many cycles under his belt. Here what he suggested:

Working with:
sus 250
deca 300
tren e 200

This will be taken twice a week:
Weeks 1-2 - 1ml sus/.5 deca
Weeks 3-10 - 1ml sus/.5 deca/.5 tren e
Weeks 11-12 - 1ml sus/.5 deca
Week 16 up - PCT

This ends up being 500mg sus-300mg deca-200mg tren e. He said that the tren is to keep the deca bloat down and get some hardness going. Is this too much for a 2nd cycle? Or are the 19 nors going to cause too many sides? Can anyone speak with some experience? Kinda thinking about the prolactin sides as all i have is arimidex and no caber.

 

[tbonexl]

Tren is being used to keep the deca bloat down??? That's the funniest bioscience comment I've heard in awhile lol! I would stop listening to "your guy"... He may be big but that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. Read the ology faq's thread. Tell him to also.

 

[anzel]

I am amazed with this lack of knowledge in the Internet age. He is telling you how to run a cycle and never thought to just Triple check on the ol WWW to make sure?

And I'm gonna say more than half the posts on here mention bloat,water weight,deca,dbol...... and no mention of an AI. If some is using an AI and still getting that bloat they say it's the deca.

Mastering the use of an AI is pivotal to the whole cycle
Zero it in and there will be no bloat.

And tren is not good for a second cycle.
You tried test. Now either try it again or add in a second compound....deca. this way you can monitor side effects and not guess which compound is causing the sides.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Tren is being used to keep the deca bloat down??? That's the funniest bioscience comment I've heard in awhile lol! I would stop listening to "your guy"... He may be big but that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. Read the ology faq's thread. Tell him to also.

agreed...
and op yes too much

 

[Roush]

whats your age? What are your goals, according to your stats you look to be 'skinny fat'. so I'm guessing you want to add some muscle and some size and loose a bit of BF% . I wouldn't worry about looking 'hard' , your at too high a body fat for anyone to notice. And at your height and weight I'm guessing you'd want to put on more size. SO, forget about the Tren, save it for cycle 5 or 6, not 2. I'd just run test only again and get your diet and training down and learn how to add on some more size without putting on body fat.
If your set on running a second compound then Test/Deca should be a good choice

 

[Roush]

Tren is being used to keep the deca bloat down

lol , now guys are going to be saying they want to run Tren as their 'anti-bloat' compound , , geessh there are already too many newbs with excuses for wanting to run tren.

 

[oldmusclemike]

CLose Mr Tbone that's the new AI. Tren will be their AI or maybe just Mast....Do they not read. Or even read the profiles???

 

[yokeboy]

I am amazed with this lack of knowledge in the Internet age. He is telling you how to run a cycle and never thought to just Triple check on the ol WWW to make sure?

And I'm gonna say more than half the posts on here mention bloat,water weight,deca,dbol...... and no mention of an AI. If some is using an AI and still getting that bloat they say it's the deca.

Mastering the use of an AI is pivotal to the whole cycle
Zero it in and there will be no bloat.

And tren is not good for a second cycle.
You tried test. Now either try it again or add in a second compound....deca. this way you can monitor side effects and not guess which compound is causing the sides.

I do have an AI. I have 10x1mg arimidex. I think I will take .25 eod if things arise. Should I change dosage or buy more? Also he says that since its only 150-200 mg tren a week, its not that much. What is wrong with tren for a second cycle?

whats your age? What are your goals, according to your stats you look to be 'skinny fat'. so I'm guessing you want to add some muscle and some size and loose a bit of BF% . I wouldn't worry about looking 'hard' , your at too high a body fat for anyone to notice. And at your height and weight I'm guessing you'd want to put on more size. SO, forget about the Tren, save it for cycle 5 or 6, not 2. I'd just run test only again and get your diet and training down and learn how to add on some more size without putting on body fat.
If your set on running a second compound then Test/Deca should be a good choice

Yes I'm definitely skinny fat lol. I got up to 210 on my last cycle but after last cycle I stopped eating big and dropped down to 190(i guess some naturally after end of cycle). Why would tren be such a bad choice for 2nd cycle? Also can you tell me why its bad to run both? Tren is a low dose of 150-200mg a week.

 

[yokeboy]

The full week what he told me looks like this:
Week 1-2 is just sus 500mg, deca 300mg,
then its
sus 500mg, deca 300mg, tren e 200mg split in two shots

Can anyone tell me why the tren is too much?
Also is that enough sus to deca ratio?

 

[tbonexl]

Sus to deca ratio? You got broscience flying all over the place here! Please do some research and stop listening to the guys at the gym...

 

[mightysatchmo]

only 10 arimidex pills? Really? so when shit goes south your scrambling to find more arimidex? You should have everything and then some before you even start a cycle.
Start the arimidex at start of cycle and adjust accordingly after week 5/6 blood work.
You have alot of research to do if you cant see that already by the responses

 

[yokeboy]

Sus to deca ratio? You got broscience flying all over the place here! Please do some research and stop listening to the guys at the gym...

Then why wont anyone tell me. You just said thats broscience. Then why wont you tell me what's not?

only 10 arimidex pills? Really? so when shit goes south your scrambling to find more arimidex? You should have everything and then some before you even start a cycle.
Start the arimidex at start of cycle and adjust accordingly after week 5/6 blood work.
You have alot of research to do if you cant see that already by the responses

I just ordered a lot more arimidex, enough for two cycles along with caber. Ill get bloodwork. But why can't anyone tell me what will happen with the two 19nors especially with tren e at a low dose?

 

[Teutonic]

2 nd cycle ???? That s why.

clueless...erectile suicide..

like a 4 yr old w an M9 cocked within reach...

 

[Milton]

Then why wont anyone tell me. You just said thats broscience. Then why wont you tell me what's not?




I just ordered a lot more arimidex, enough for two cycles along with caber. Ill get bloodwork. But why can't anyone tell me what will happen with the two 19nors especially with tren e at a low dose?

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