Suspected low T - advice on speaking to GP

Anyway, rant over. What do you guys think?
I think you're hypogonadal, and should qualify for treatment. That low cutoff is RIDICULOUS by the way.

LH and FSH would have been nice too, but socialized healthcare really only benefits those that abuse the system unfortunately.
 
Gonna book a private appt tomorrow. I'm kinda glad I have an understanding of the probable reasons behind my problems. If my results had come back normal then I'd have been at a loss...
 
Man, I hate to think of all the guys in the same situation who have just blindly accepted anti depressants and destined to wallow in this pit. Feel bad for em!
 
Man, I hate to think of all the guys in the same situation who have just blindly accepted anti depressants and destined to wallow in this pit. Feel bad for em!

That happened to me for a very long time. It's part of the reason why I'm so active and vocal on TRT discussions. ;)
 
If it wasn't for the abundance of info on forums like this I'd probably still be on Prozac wondering why it wasn't working and why even after bucketloads of cialis I still can't maintain enough interest much of the time.

At least in my quest for answers I've become significantly stronger through lifting and have educated myself in nutrition etc. Hell, I'd still be burning myself out in a high stress sales job had I not had cause to try and make changes for the better. I love my job now and the pieces are all there if I can just make them fit together. I really appreciate the advice from you guys.
 
...and now I can see how.

I even asked (tactfully) if it could be a hormonal issue and I was pretty much laughed at because I'm a big guy with a full beard. I mean, how many guys in my situation would even have done the amount of research that I have as a fairly dogmatic person who enjoys dissecting information. Probably less than one would hope...
 
there are some antidepressants and a whole host of other drugs that are harmful to the pituitary. There is a list on NIMH.

Also, they have done studies on depressed men who were put on testosterone and showed improvement.

You need more labwork. TSH, Free T3, Free T4, LH, FSH, Testosterone Total and Free, Estradiol, and Prolactin at the very least.
 
there are some antidepressants and a whole host of other drugs that are harmful to the pituitary. There is a list on NIMH.

Also, they have done studies on depressed men who were put on testosterone and showed improvement.

You need more labwork. TSH, Free T3, Free T4, LH, FSH, Testosterone Total and Free, Estradiol, and Prolactin at the very least.

I've just emailed the Leger Clinic in Doncaster for a callback as have heard good things about them and one of the most reasonably priced in the UK.
 
I've just emailed the Leger Clinic in Doncaster for a callback as have heard good things about them and one of the most reasonably priced in the UK.

Awesome. Show them IMT website. Tell them IMT gets tons of guys from the UK asking if we can help them. We could network them.
 
Apparently he is also supportive in writing letters to one's GP which may prove useful with me falling within the range which many NHS docs will treat - some will only test if below 7-8 but increasingly it seems many are happy to investigate if between 8-12 with symptoms.
 
I mentioned in my message that it was only after researching/being given advice online that I decided to get a second opinion...
 
If it wasn't for the abundance of info on forums like this I'd probably still be on Prozac wondering why it wasn't working and why even after bucketloads of cialis I still can't maintain enough interest much of the time.

At least in my quest for answers I've become significantly stronger through lifting and have educated myself in nutrition etc. Hell, I'd still be burning myself out in a high stress sales job had I not had cause to try and make changes for the better. I love my job now and the pieces are all there if I can just make them fit together. I really appreciate the advice from you guys.

It makes my day knowing people can learn from the collective experiences here as it really is far too common. I really wish this kind of information was more widely spread back in the early 2000's, as it would have saved me some serious grief.

Please keep us updated on your progress!
 
I can truly say ology saved my life and I learned most of what I know form the vets here like the above halfwit :)
 
I certainly will, my friend. I know it's not a quick fix and there may be peaks and troughs but it's so comforting to know that this isn't just 'how I am'.

What really spurred me into action was the abstract thought one day that if there was a button which I could press to just erase myself from existence with no hassle I would probably have pushed it. I don't hate myself....I know I'm good at my job, lots of good friends, no trouble talking to the opposite sex, but none of it made much difference as I just didn't 'feel it'. I kept having to ask myself 'what are you missing...why doesn't this feel like enough' and I think I now know the reason for my continued apathy.
 
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