Sust 250 cycle- nausea/headaches

[Davo66]

Hi all,

Stats
Age- 28
Weight- 187
Height- 5'11
Bodyfat- 9.8%

First cycle was test enanthate at 500mg/weekly and my current cycle i have just started is sust 250 only at 500mg/weekly.

Brief description of my cycle.
Weeks 1-12 - 500mg sust250/ weekly (mon/thurs)
- 500iu hcg weekly (mon/thurs)
-Arimidex 0.5mg eod
Pct- 2 weeks after last injection (clomid and nolva)

I am currently on my second week of this cycle and the cork is 4 x as worse as when i was on enanthate. Thats not really bothering me to much but about 10 or so hours after each injection i have done i get a real bad headache, feel like i am going to spew and sometimes the sweats and cold chills. They last around 2hrs and then dissappear until i inject again. Wondering if this is normal? I though the first few times that maybe its just my body reacting to the test but now that its happening every time its making me wonder.

Thanks guys

 

[Milton]

why a sustanon only cycle??

 

[Roush]

did you start taking .5mg of an AI from day 1 ? sustanon is mainly long esters, really long decaonate which takes weeks to kick in. just saying its easy to crash E2 with that high a dose of an AI when the test your injecting isn't even absorbing for weeks.
see no point in having switched from test e your first go to sustanon this time.

low estrogen can cause nausea and headaches. I'm guessing you may have crashed yourself. as for the symptoms coming up "10 hours" after injection , well thats a long ass time. If you said an hour after injection I'd be looking at something related to the gear, but 10 hours, seems unrelated.

 

[3J]

roush, low estrogen causes nausea and headaches?? thats new to me brother.. where are you sourcing that from?

 

[Roush]

roush, low estrogen causes nausea and headaches?? thats new to me brother.. where are you sourcing that from?

have you ever taken to much letro ? feel weak as hell and get a headache and nausea . no sourcing, just how I feel.

i imagine same thing can happen with an AI taken too high a dose to frequently when there is no aromatization going on that needs dealt with by the Ai to begin with

 

[Davo66]

roush, low estrogen causes nausea and headaches?? thats new to me brother.. where are you sourcing that from?

Sourcing from x labs. I understand taking 0.5mg of arimidex eod sounds like to much but my estrogen levels are high normally and i had a few issues with gyno in my last cycle and only 7 days in(nipples felt like razor blades/super sensitive). Everyone said i was imagining it so i got blood work and it show my oestradiol was right up so i ran 0.5 all the way through my last cycle without a problem.

 

[Davo66]

why a sustanon only cycle??

I wanted to give it ago for myself. My training buddy did sust only when i did my last enanthate cycle and his results were great so i thought i would give it a go. Why are so many people against sust only cycles?

 

[Gainjin260]

I wanted to give it ago for myself. My training buddy did sust only when i did my last enanthate cycle and his results were great so i thought i would give it a go. Why are so many people against sust only cycles?

Nothing wrong with sust only cycles. Maybe Milton just likes to run multiple compounds.

 

[Roush]

I wanted to give it ago for myself. My training buddy did sust only when i did my last enanthate cycle and his results were great so i thought i would give it a go. Why are so many people against sust only cycles?

test is test . if the absorbable dosage of sustanon is the exact same as the absorbable amount of test e , or test cyp , etc.. then it is all exactly the same, once it gets into the blood stream , test is bound to androgen receptors . once the test is free from the ester , your body has no clue wither you injected sustanon or test e.

the reason why a lot of guys don't really like sustanon is that it contains longer esters, like decaonate, which means the full mg for mg dose takes forever to kick in , plus it hinders the time it takes you to be able to jump on and start your PCT (cause that decaonate ester is still hanging around weeks after you stopped your cycle and releasing exogenous test)
where as with something like test prop, it kicks in in a day , and its out of your system in two days , allowing you to start pct right away.

 

[Davo66]

test is test . if the absorbable dosage of sustanon is the exact same as the absorbable amount of test e , or test cyp , etc.. then it is all exactly the same, once it gets into the blood stream , test is bound to androgen receptors . once the test is free from the ester , your body has no clue wither you injected sustanon or test e.

the reason why a lot of guys don't really like sustanon is that it contains longer esters, like decaonate, which means the full mg for mg dose takes forever to kick in , plus it hinders the time it takes you to be able to jump on and start your PCT (cause that decaonate ester is still hanging around weeks after you stopped your cycle and releasing exogenous test)
where as with something like test prop, it kicks in in a day , and its out of your system in two days , allowing you to start pct right away.

Ok makes sense then i guess. I just want give them all a go at some stage and see which works best for me. Did you find the cork is way worse with sust compared to enanthate?

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

I have ran 1gram+/wk sust only cycles before. Probably half dozen or more of them. I honestly have never had an issue with a blend. For me, I like the idea of a taper at the end. I have seen more guys having gyno issues with it though, probably because of all the different esters causing your estrogen to fluctuate. Personally, Ive ran some dumb amounts of test and never had gyno issues however I know guys who have had issues with running less than 500mg/wk. Everyone is different.
If you are new to AAS, I wouldn't recommend a blend until you know how your body works.

 

[Roush]

If you are new to AAS, I wouldn't recommend a blend until you know how your body works.

^ solid advice here . instead of jumping on a blend next , why not run a faster acting test like test prop . you'll get more mg for mg out of it then you did the test e (test e about 70% is absorbed where with test prop 92% is absorbed). See how you react to something that kicks in much faster. instead of jumping to a blend not knowing whats doing what*

*but again once test is in the blood stream its all the same

 

[Davo66]

^ solid advice here . instead of jumping on a blend next , why not run a faster acting test like test prop . you'll get more mg for mg out of it then you did the test e (test e about 70% is absorbed where with test prop 92% is absorbed). See how you react to something that kicks in much faster. instead of jumping to a blend not knowing whats doing what*

*but again once test is in the blood stream its all the same

Thanks for the tips felas. My body seems to be getting use to it as the last couple injections havent been bad at all besides the cork.

The blend probably wasnt the best option for this cycle but i already have brought heaps of it so im going to continue running it. It seems like pretty legit stuff, im on week 3 and my weight and strength has started to increase nicely. Not to mention how horny i am haha so pretty excited to see how i go from this cycle.

 

[juced_porkchop]

since its sust id even start pct 3 weeks later due to slower ester IMO.
also maybe its the un-researched "test flu" some get at start of cycle?
maybe also try lowering the AI Dex to 0.25mg eod

 

[Davo66]

since its sust id even start pct 3 weeks later due to slower ester IMO.
also maybe its the un-researched "test flu" some get at start of cycle?
maybe also try lowering the AI Dex to 0.25mg eod

Oh ok i might wait that little bit longer to start pct then when i get to that stage. Yeh im not sure what it was but it was consistant with those first 4 injections. Now i just get a really dry mouth the day after then im back to normal.

Im worried dropping the adex to 0.25mg eod because of a past cycle of test e where gyno symptoms crept up at that dose so i upped it to 0.5mg eod and they went away. Might be different on sust 250 but im alittle paranoid. Adex cant affect my gains at 0.5mg eod can it?