Sustain Alpha and 1-T Tren

[TheMilkMan]

I'll start with the back story:

Sustain Alpha
Anyone who knows about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) knows the shit goes in and out of stock quickly and how important it is to have some on hand at the start of every cycle. We'll unfortunately at the start of my second cycle, about a year ago, I couldn't get my hands on any at the time. I took an alternate route and got the Sustain Alpha that our board sponsor Primordial Performance produces. I used it for a while that cycle until my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) came in and I switched over to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mid cycle.

Now, I'm in the middle of my fourth cycle (http://www.steroidology.com/forum/my-online-journal/140704-test-e-eq-spring-cycle.html) and I pulled out the Sustain Alpha about 2 weeks ago after I finished up my last amp of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I wanted to use for this cycle. I have been using the pulse protocol, which is 6-10 pumps 2x a week, and have noticed some drastic improvements in my overall well being. I have been using 8 pumps E3D, and have no longer noticed the burnt out feeling that I associate with negligible amounts of LH and FSH circulating through the body. I have also noticed in the last 3 weeks that my testes have increased in size slightly, which would make me believe they are now active again and my post cycle therapy (pct) will be that much easier, keep in mind these results have been seen on a highly suppressive cycle of 750mg/wk Test E and 600mg/wk EQ. Overall, I have been very satisfied with Primordial's product and would safely and confidently say that it is a viable alternative to the "on-cycle" Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol.

1-T Tren
On another note, I have been lucky enough to have been sent a bottle of 1-T Tren to try out. First off, once all the details were worked out and the product was sent, it arrived in 2 days (I live in New York and it was sent from Oregon), faster than any other company I've dealt with ever.

I was very impressed by the packaging and how easily the product could be administered without any guess work. I started using 5 pumps ED today (4/5) and will be running it for the 23 days it's supposed to last. I will be updating everyone on the results I notice as well as any side effects. Again, note that I am on a heavy stack, so to see significant results will be rather impressive.

The first application was this morning after a shower and was no different than applying lotion to the skin. The 5 pumps covered pretty much my entire chest, shoulder, and upper arm region. It has a slight musky sent that isn't overwhelming by any means. The product dried rather quickly (under 5 minutes) but did leave my skin feeling slightly greasy for another 30 minutes or so.

I will be updating this thread every once in a while to let everyone know what I think about the 1-T Tren. Also, I know Eric (owner of PP) will be checking up on this thread, so feel free to ask any questions you may have. If I can answer them I will, but if it has to do directly with the product composition, etc, I'll be diverting those questions to him.

Thus far, the quality of products Primordial Performance offers as well as their customer service gets 2 thumbs up from me.

 

[Ozzy27]

That would be very interesting to see if there is any effect from the 1-TTren , since you are running a heavy cycle of test. Just keep it honest bro

 

[gogetter]

Keep it up MILK. I just got some 1T-Tren also im looking foward to using. I have to agree with you on the shipping, My bottle was shipped to me after 3 days, i was provided a tracking number also. Excellent service.

Also i just started on Sustain Alpha, i had a "trial size" bottle, and i figured i would try it before i got get my pre cycle blood tests. Glad to see its working for you MILK.

 

[1badmofo]

I will be interested to know how it works on test also. I am running 1 bottle of the 1-T Tren with Epistane and seeing great results. I have never seen changes like this except when I was on a gear. I will probably run Tren A next cycle since it is about the same price but it is nice to have a legal product and the transdermal is a nice change from so many injections. PP also has a transdermal lotion if someone wanted to make their own.

 

[JayC]

Wow, great thread Milk!! I'll be following this one, fo' Sho! You're one of the most stand up guys on this board so I know I can take your feedback to the bank.

 

[Ian512]

I'm really interested to hear about your results. Keep us posted bro!

 

[TheMilkMan]

Wow, great thread Milk!! I'll be following this one, fo' Sho! You're one of the most stand up guys on this board so I know I can take your feedback to the bank.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. Day 2 and nothing yet to report.

 

[Primordial Performance]

subbed for questions.

-Eric

 

[TheMilkMan]

Today was my 6th application.

Within the first couple days, I noticed that I was holding significantly less water weight than I was previously. I can only contribute this to the 1-T Tren.

Also, I have had some trouble staying asleep throughout the night, which was a similar (but no where near as intense) side effect that I experienced when running Tren Ace at 50mg/day.

I have had a couple GREAT workouts recently... maxed out on Squats, trained chest super heavy, and hit a PR on DB Shoulder Presses (after training chest... my training split is Chest/Shoulder/Tris all in one day). I'm not going to go as far as to say it is all because of the 1-T Tren, but I have noticed more energy and muscular stamina throughout my training.

My weight has not changed at all, I weighed in at 237.5lbs day one, and I weighed in at the same weight this morning.

So far, mostly positives.

 

[TheMilkMan]

Day 10

Pumps have been the number one thing that I have noticed. I have been finding myself getting incredibly pumped up after doing simple tasks that would otherwise yield no pump at all. Applying the lotion everyday causes incredible pumps in my delts, almost as intense as they would be if I had just trained them.

The second most noticeable effect of the 1-T Tren has been the reduction in water weight I have noticed. Running 750mg Test Enanthate and 600mg EQ a week has caused some water retention for me, so much so that I have been using 1-2 pumps of AIFM everyday. While the AIFM has cut down on some of the bloat, the water retention has decreased even more dramatically now that I have been using the 1-T Tren. It has served as somewhat of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for me this cycle.

I'm really liking this product thus far because it is doing exactly what I thought it was going to. I knew that I wasn't going to notice anything out of this world, because I am on a healthy amount of gear, but it has produced some nice effects so far. I am told that right around day 14 is when you really start to notice some changes and noticeable gains. I'm getting very excited to see what is to come.

 

[TheMilkMan]

20th Application

Woke up today and my muscles felt super full. I almost always weigh myself in every morning and recently, I have been hovering around 234-236lbs. Stepped in the scale today and I was 242lbs. Nothing has changed with my training and eating, so the only thing I can attribute this to is the fact that I'm gaining from the 1-T Tren.

Recently, I have been battling a little bit of a shoulder injury so I have been limited on my overhead pressing movements as well as some Chest pressing movements, but the week before (on a cruise week of training), I hit 95lbs DB on Shoulder Press for 6 reps and could have easily done 10.

I am planning on jumping on this sale by the end of the night tonight, so I can run a 2 bottle 5 pump ED cycle in October-November. I am going to be taking off from any other anabolics until early January after the close of my cycle (June 1st) and I think this will be a nice little boost when I need one.

Coming to the 3 week mark, I have to say that this product is totally legit and is perfect for anyone that is looking to take a legal alternative to AAS. And for 1/2 price, you'd have to be crazy not to take advantage of this deal.

 

[deathtoll]

huh, i thought you have gained a little more size.. have you dropped bf% at you think?

 

[TheMilkMan]

huh, i thought you have gained a little more size.. have you dropped bf% at you think?

I'm on 750mg/wk of Test Enanthate and 600mg/wk of EQ. The fact that I'm even noticing anything from the 1-T Tren says alot about it.

 

[TheMilkMan]

Day 25 of 5 pumps ED

Everything from day 20 has remained the same. I have noticed some great fullness in my muscles throughout the day and I seem to be pumped constantly. Within a couple of warm up sets on any muscle group, my muscles are pumped to hell and it's almost odd looking.

I had a little bit of gyno my last cycle (Test/Tren) that was from the Tren. I killed it with megadoses of B6, but I have noticed recently that I have been getting a little bit of sensitivity under my left nipple now. I can only assume that this is because of the 1-T Tren being a strong product that is very similar to the bodybuilding drug we have all come to love.

At the completion of this little run, all I can say is that 1-T Tren is a very good alternative to AAS if you live in a country in which AAS use is strictly regulated. I picked up 2 more bottles of it for use in October-November and am looking forward to running it by itself.

Customer service at PrimordialPerformance.com is unmatched and I received my 2 bottles of 1-T Tren today (4/29). I ordered on 4/25 and they shipped it across the entire country in 4 days. Can't beat it.

 

[gogetter]

Milk.

Glad to here everything is working for you, minus the gyno... what are you taking for it? B6? have you looked into Vitex?

What MG dose of B6 did you take when you had progesterone gyno?

 

[TheMilkMan]

Milk.

Glad to here everything is working for you, minus the gyno... what are you taking for it? B6? have you looked into Vitex?

What MG dose of B6 did you take when you had progesterone gyno?

To be honest, I haven't taken anything for it because I only noticed it a little bit (slight soreness) on day 22 of the 1-T Tren and I'm going to be done with it Friday. When I gyno for the Tren previously, I ran 300mg of B6 everyday. The soreness subsided and the lump under the nipple subsided slightly, but it didn't go away completely. I had to wait until after PCT for it to disappear completely.

Never heard of Vitex, I'll google it.

 

[joshweights]

any updates ?

 

[Primordial Performance]

To be honest, I haven't taken anything for it because I only noticed it a little bit (slight soreness) on day 22 of the 1-T Tren and I'm going to be done with it Friday. When I gyno for the Tren previously, I ran 300mg of B6 everyday. The soreness subsided and the lump under the nipple subsided slightly, but it didn't go away completely. I had to wait until after PCT for it to disappear completely.

Never heard of Vitex, I'll google it.

Yeah, plain old Vitex will totally take care of any sensitivity I have... just 460mg/day gets the job done.

-Eric

 

[TheMilkMan]

any updates ?

I'm still on cycle and using the Sustain Alpha but I finished the 1-T Tren a little while back. The little bit of gyno went away immediately as soon as I dropped the 1-T Tren, so I would have to assume that it came from the Tren and the Tren only (EXACTLY the same effect I had running Tren Ace).

As far as the gains from the 1-T Tren, they were harder to notice because I'm on 750-800mg of Test Enanthate a week and at the time was also running EQ at 600mg/wk, but I hit a PR on Rack Pulls and a bench max (I had hit it before) when on the 1-T Tren. I did notice less water retention when using the 1-T Tren and I also noticed that I felt fuller all the time as well. Take it for what you want, but I liked the product and am excited to give it a solo run in October.

The Sustain Alpha is AWESOME, the morning after I apply it I feel on top of the world and energized for the day. I think it really bodes well for the product because it brings you out of that burnt out I have no LH or FSH in my body feeling. Fortunately I have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I plan on running my next long cycles, but this is a wonderful "on cycle" choice to keep your nuts active and keeping away the burnt out feeling AAS gives many.

I'll be using it for PCT as well, along with Endo-Amp and 20mg/day of Nolva, so hopefully I'll have something good to report.

 

[Rucker]

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