Taking Steroids while on TRT

[LiveStronger5031]

Hey guys, I had previously posted a thread probably about a month ago in regards to this same matter and got some great advice. I am still 6 weeks in between blood work. I had my first bloodwork done last week and my levels went from 280 to 500 within 6 weeks of 200mg/week of test c from the clinic. So here's my question... After yalls advice, I decided to hold off on blasting injections until my blood is taken every 6 months. I was doing some research and found that orals like winstrol and anavar have a very half short life and will be out of my system very quickly. I was thinking I could take 5 week cycles of the orals in between the 6 week blood work and my test levels should be back to normal range by that 6th week right? Anyone who has had REAL experience and not just hear say... Please let me know your advice

 

[Mprtz]

200 mg per week and your levels are only 500 ng/dL? That's surprising, should be higher for sure.

Winstrol and Anavar shouldn't affect your testosterone levels even if you're still on them while being tested.
Depending on what else is being tested ( lipids, liver values, etc) you may see negative effects from the orals showing up on your bloodwork.

 

[LiveStronger5031]

Well they started the first week at 200, next 4 weeks at 140 and did 170 last week then I think their bumping me up to 200 tomorrow

 

[Megatron28]

Don't mess around until you are dialed in and not going to the doc so often. Orals will affect your Free T, Liver and possibly estradiol among other things.

 

[LiveStronger5031]

Yes but the oral half life is so short, that my t levels will return to normal within a week... Right?

 

[Megatron28]

Yes but the oral half life is so short, that my t levels will return to normal within a week... Right?

There is more than TT to consider

I moved this out of the TRT forum.

 

[Mdrive]

Man you are rolling the dice trying to run a mini cycle with such a short time between your Dr appointments. Sounds risky, could loose your scrip not to mention your Dr getting suspicious.

 

[halfwit]

Yes but the oral half life is so short, that my t levels will return to normal within a week... Right?

What's the hurry? Take this time to get everything back into running order, and have some trust built up with your doctor. As Tron stated, there's a lot more here than just a total testosterone and estradiol to account for.

I'd personally get that diet whipped into shape, that way when you actually are ready - you'll truly BE ready. No such thing as a short cut here, I promise.

 

[LiveStronger5031]

It's not that there is a hurry. It's just that I've been waiting two months now for my blood tests and still going to have to wait even longer. My total t went up from 250 to 580. Free t went up too. As well as my estrogen to 68.9! It was at 13. I will be starting an anastrozole this week to bring that down. I've been working my ass off in the gym for the last 3 months and have hit a plateau. I can't lose anymore belly fat, and am not cutting like I want to be. I am doing oral anavar and winstrol at a very low dose to help. 50mg oral winstrol. 20mg oral anavar /1x a day

 

[halfwit]

It's not that there is a hurry. It's just that I've been waiting two months now for my blood tests and still going to have to wait even longer. My total t went up from 250 to 580. Free t went up too. As well as my estrogen to 68.9! It was at 13. I will be starting an anastrozole this week to bring that down. I've been working my ass off in the gym for the last 3 months and have hit a plateau. I can't lose anymore belly fat, and am not cutting like I want to be. I am doing oral anavar and winstrol at a very low dose to help. 50mg oral winstrol. 20mg oral anavar /1x a day

I want you to reread that. 3 months is nothing in the grand scheme of things btw.

Oh, and you're wasting your money that way. AAS tends to require a minimum effective dose, which you're certainly below.

 

[LiveStronger5031]

So anyways the entire reason I posted this was to hear EXPERIENCE, not OPINION. If I wanted opinions, I would've asked. Re read my first post before you chime in with speculation

 

[juced_porkchop]

Don't mess around until you are dialed in and not going to the doc so often. Orals will affect your Free T, Liver and possibly estradiol among other things.

I agree with you, get dialed in first. and yes the orals would be out quick, but they are harsh on body and can ,ess with otherthings aside from test levels.

 

[Megatron28]

So anyways the entire reason I posted this was to hear EXPERIENCE, not OPINION. If I wanted opinions, I would've asked. Re read my first post before you chime in with speculation

We have given you facts. Not opinion or anecdotal experience. You seem annoyed that you are not being told the answer you want to hear.

By the way, diet is going to dictate your ability to lose fat. And there is no way you have hit a plateau in the gym after three months. You were hypogonadal for how long?

 

[LiveStronger5031]

It is irritating when I ask for detection times of winstrol on testosterone levels and everyone feels the need to chime in about how I should run my life. My mind is made up and I'm already taking the orals. I just wanted to know the range of effectiveness on the test levels. I don't know how long I've had low t. Getting tested for it a couple months ago was the first time anyone has ever looked into hormones being the possibility for my mood shifts, insomnia and add.

 

[halfwit]

It is irritating when I ask for detection times of winstrol on testosterone levels and everyone feels the need to chime in about how I should run my life. My mind is made up and I'm already taking the orals. I just wanted to know the range of effectiveness on the test levels. I don't know how long I've had low t. Getting tested for it a couple months ago was the first time anyone has ever looked into hormones being the possibility for my mood shifts, insomnia and add.

Jesus christ, grow up. You ARE getting experience; quit acting like a spoiled brat!

1. Fact: You're not dialed in yet with TRT but want to push the envelope because you have the typical misconception on how this stuff works. Add to that you're being impatient, AND really immature - just creates a lose/lose situation.

2. Fact: You're taking hormones that you don't understand at doses that are a waste. How do I know this? FROM EXPERIENCE.

3. Fact: Plugging your ears and covering your eyes because you're getting advice you don't want - then telling the people that are actually qualified to give you advice to essentially shut up won't get you very far.

But hey, your money, your body, your life. I'm not your Internet Daddy, but I'm also not going to be sympathetic when you learn the hard way why fire is hot.

Best of luck.

 

[Ziegler]

It is irritating when I ask for for detection times of winstrol on testosterone levels and everyone feels the need to chime in about how I should run my life.

Hey guys, I had previously posted a thread probably about a month ago in regards to this same matter and got some great advice. Please let me know your advice

If your gunna be unappreciative of the advice you ask for from these people that take time to give you, I suggest you google it.

 

[Megatron28]

It is irritating when I ask for detection times of winstrol on testosterone levels and everyone feels the need to chime in about how I should run my life. My mind is made up and I'm already taking the orals. I just wanted to know the range of effectiveness on the test levels. I don't know how long I've had low t. Getting tested for it a couple months ago was the first time anyone has ever looked into hormones being the possibility for my mood shifts, insomnia and add.

Google "Half Life"+ " Insert Steroid Name Here"

 

[LiveStronger5031]

I've googled half life and detection times. That info is easy to find. What I wanted to find that I could not on Google was how long testosterone levels take to go back to normal after stopping

 

[Megatron28]

I've googled half life and detection times. That info is easy to find. What I wanted to find that I could not on Google was how long testosterone levels take to go back to normal after stopping

I agree the Info is easy to find. You just have to apply the information.

Total Testosterone will not be affected by orals. We have been trying to tell you that -- See Post #2. So to answer your specific question, it will "return" to normal at time 0.

Why would you Google detection times. Are you expecting to be tested for doping?

 

[Ziegler]

Why would you Google detection times. Are you expecting to be tested for doping?

He doesn't want to freak out the doctor next time he goes in if they test his levels.