test 250 alone?
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bro with a 150# bench you are no where the need for aas!
you asked this question in another thread.
say you take the test, your strength starts going up fast. now your pushing 225# in7 weeks. what do you think is going to happen to the tendons and ligaments that are only used to pushing 150#, snap, crackle, pop. now your out with a serious injury for the next 6months(if not forever). you just wasted your money on the test and supporting supplements not to mention the medical bills you are going to receive and time off of work.
take the advice and train naturally for 2 years then look at where you are at.
its not a sprint, its a marathon!
i hope you make an imformed decision! good luck to you.
bro with a 150# bench you are no where the need for aas!
you asked this question in another thread.
say you take the test, your strength starts going up fast. now your pushing 225# in7 weeks. what do you think is going to happen to the tendons and ligaments that are only used to pushing 150#, snap, crackle, pop. now your out with a serious injury for the next 6months(if not forever). you just wasted your money on the test and supporting supplements not to mention the medical bills you are going to receive and time off of work.
take the advice and train naturally for 2 years then look at where you are at.
its not a sprint, its a marathon!
i hope you make an imformed decision! good luck to you.
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
Please stop making new threads on the same subject.
Are you going to continue making new threads on the same subject until someone tells you it's OK to do this after only training for 6 months with a 150 lb bench press?
*********NEWS FLASH***********........"It's NOT going to happen."
Are you going to continue making new threads on the same subject until someone tells you it's OK to do this after only training for 6 months with a 150 lb bench press?
*********NEWS FLASH***********........"It's NOT going to happen."
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
Don't worry about stats yet.......You need at least a good solid 2 + years of serious dedicated training behind you.
DM@C
Doing it better then you
supernovice
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DM@C that is a SICK avatar
I hadn't trainned in over 5 years, about 8 weeks ago I started lifting heavily again and I started at 145 and within the last few weeks my strength has gotten greater. Listen I want to start on some gear too and I lifted 315 years ago and had no problems bro. I'm building my way up to it. In 3 to 4 months from now if I'm back at benching 315 on the regular I'll consider gearing up. Until then I'm going natural.
Now depending on the individual your max lifting ability will vary. It also depends on whether you have trained before or not.
Now depending on the individual your max lifting ability will vary. It also depends on whether you have trained before or not.
E
estray
Guest
This is just a recipe for injury.
Listen to everyone, put a couple years in the gym lifting heavy and then your body will be much more ready for the change its gonna go thru when you start taking anabolics.
Listen to everyone, put a couple years in the gym lifting heavy and then your body will be much more ready for the change its gonna go thru when you start taking anabolics.
coloroido
52%BADASS-48%HARDCORE
well if i train for two years then ill be 25 anyway so thats gonna workout fine.
ive seen some of the members pics and other than my lower stomach (not a beer gut just chunky)i am the same size and more cut than the smaller members so i need to post some pics so i can get some feed back.
ive also been hitting the gym hard and ive started a low fat and lo carb hi protien diet
ive seen some of the members pics and other than my lower stomach (not a beer gut just chunky)i am the same size and more cut than the smaller members so i need to post some pics so i can get some feed back.
ive also been hitting the gym hard and ive started a low fat and lo carb hi protien diet
A question if anyone has an answer.
I have noticed a couple of times on various threads posted, it seems that almost everytime some new person asks about what kind of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) they should use, and the person happens to have only a short time of training 6months maybe a year.
How come the response to the persons question is somthing like " you should have 2-3+ years of training" " your stats should be higher" etc, etc.
Is there some sort of scientific research, medical paper, out there , that states that one must have these many years of training before usisng aas?
If there is such research out there then I guess that would answer my question. If however there is not, then I'm going to guess that this whole 2+ year training this is
just an individual personal opinion.
Has anyone here actually started using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) after only 6 months of training? and did your body get destroyed? Do you have proof that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) did this to you?
Like I said, if anyone has an intelligent answer with some actual proof to back it up that is , please I would like your thoughts.
No half ass answers please, some solid real proof required.
Thanks
I have noticed a couple of times on various threads posted, it seems that almost everytime some new person asks about what kind of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) they should use, and the person happens to have only a short time of training 6months maybe a year.
How come the response to the persons question is somthing like " you should have 2-3+ years of training" " your stats should be higher" etc, etc.
Is there some sort of scientific research, medical paper, out there , that states that one must have these many years of training before usisng aas?
If there is such research out there then I guess that would answer my question. If however there is not, then I'm going to guess that this whole 2+ year training this is
just an individual personal opinion.
Has anyone here actually started using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) after only 6 months of training? and did your body get destroyed? Do you have proof that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) did this to you?
Like I said, if anyone has an intelligent answer with some actual proof to back it up that is , please I would like your thoughts.
No half ass answers please, some solid real proof required.
Thanks
E
estray
Guest
First of all, there are no studies where Anabolics relate to weightlifting so you can get the whole "proof" thing out your of our head. All we have to go on is anecdotal evidence and thats plenty in most cases.
Its simple, your muscle strength goes up faster than your supporting ligaments and tendons do. This inevitably results in an injury because your muscles may be ready to carry the heavier weight but the rest of your body isnt. I trained for a year and a half solid before starting gear and i had problems end of first cycle and still have problems. First it was my left shoulder, then both of my elbows, now my right shoulder. I havent been able to bench at 100% for a couple months now, probably not even 75%. A couple of my friends that are training naturally are surpassing my bench now even though im on gear. It sucks. Its fun as hell to put 50lbs or more on your bench in a few short weeks but youll pay the price in the end.]
You could probably get hundreds of stories like mine from newbs who jumped on the gear too early but most of them are gone. They got hurt, got fat cause they didnt know what theyre doing, etc, and now theyre out of the game. Lost interest, whatever. i was fortunate enough to be friends with one of the top personal traininers in the country, and his guidance has kept me going in the right direction and helped me work around my injuries. Most dont have that luxury.
Bottom line is after 3 years training i could probably be naturally further ahead than 350 bench, 550 deadlift, and 400lb squat(i know that sucks but i have lower back degenerative disc disease so my core strenght sucks. the gear has actually helped me in this area), and likely couldve avoided all the injuries and pain. Live and learn.
Other reason is you need to learn how to eat and train naturally to add muscle and cut fat without losing muscle. This is a very individual thing that takes time and i guarantee if you dont get this down before turning to anabolics youll just be wasting your money.
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steroids should be used as an aid and not a crutch.
in such short time, how much will you know about nutrition, how your body responds to different nutrient ratios and calorie consumption?
how much will you know about what exercises your body responds best to? and the correct form you need to hit each muscle?
how much determination will you have if you're just starting? just because you take steroids doesn't mean you don't have to have these things nailed.
for most people years of training is needed to get these things right and to get the info they need.
or else it's a waste of money, not to mention the damage that can be done by steroid use if the user is not prepared or under age. such as gynocomastia, liver damge, hair loss, premature closure of growth plates.. ect
in such short time, how much will you know about nutrition, how your body responds to different nutrient ratios and calorie consumption?
how much will you know about what exercises your body responds best to? and the correct form you need to hit each muscle?
how much determination will you have if you're just starting? just because you take steroids doesn't mean you don't have to have these things nailed.
for most people years of training is needed to get these things right and to get the info they need.
or else it's a waste of money, not to mention the damage that can be done by steroid use if the user is not prepared or under age. such as gynocomastia, liver damge, hair loss, premature closure of growth plates.. ect
Well you guys are def right on one point. You should know how to train and eat right befroe you start a gear cycle. Know all the pros and cons that come with these powerful drugs.
Some people will say you need 5 years of training, others only 2 others only 1. So whos right?? The only point that I was trying to make is that everyone just has different opnion about the matter. Your right there is no set "proof" I know that. My point was to show that there really is not "True right and wrong".
Just everyones opnion, and one should take the bulk of it , weight it, average it, add ones own piece to it, and make ones own decision.
There is no right and wrong.
Prime example, some people say , and I have seen this on the boards, that when you use Deca you "need" to use about 250, 300, 400mg's of Test so you dont get Decca dick, and they say this is the right way of doing it.
But I saw some person say that all they take is 100mg a week and that is enough for them to not get the D Dick.
No right or wrong, just whatever works for you , everyone is different.
Some people will say you need 5 years of training, others only 2 others only 1. So whos right?? The only point that I was trying to make is that everyone just has different opnion about the matter. Your right there is no set "proof" I know that. My point was to show that there really is not "True right and wrong".
Just everyones opnion, and one should take the bulk of it , weight it, average it, add ones own piece to it, and make ones own decision.
There is no right and wrong.
Prime example, some people say , and I have seen this on the boards, that when you use Deca you "need" to use about 250, 300, 400mg's of Test so you dont get Decca dick, and they say this is the right way of doing it.
But I saw some person say that all they take is 100mg a week and that is enough for them to not get the D Dick.
No right or wrong, just whatever works for you , everyone is different.
DM@C
Doing it better then you
Thanks bro.. likewise
coloroido
52%BADASS-48%HARDCORE
i do know how to train ive lifted on and off since hi school football plus i workout with a guy thats been nat for 2 yrs and a bodybuilder whos been in the game for 20 years
he said to use test 250 to start at 250mg/wk and train daily
ive also started a strict diet but i feel that if i give myself afew months ill be ready for the test besides its not like im stacking eq,tren-e,and test for a first cycle
he said to use test 250 to start at 250mg/wk and train daily
ive also started a strict diet but i feel that if i give myself afew months ill be ready for the test besides its not like im stacking eq,tren-e,and test for a first cycle
