Test 400/Deca 200

[topbod]

So i am starting my first injectable cycle i am only going to do 1cc a week for 12 weeks of test 400 and 10 weeks of deca, 1 cc, i was wondering if that is a good enough dose? or should i up it to 2 cc's a week? and is 12 weeks good enough? i guess i am just asking if this is a good enough cycle.

 

[TM4N]

hey thats exactly what im doing dude!

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

id split the 400mg up 200mg and 200mg.. mon thurs.. and 400mg is enough..

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

id double the deca though-400mg a week

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

id double the deca though-400mg a week

400mg deca would work.. but if you do that id up the test.. i always tried to stay about 1 1/2:1.. test - deca.. or close to it.. my usual is 500mg test.. 350 - 400mg deca..

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

400mg test 300mg deca would give good results..

 

[topbod]

400mg test 300mg deca would give good results..

Why should i take test monday and thursday? and also i am gonna do 200mg of deca for 13 weeks, and 400mg of test for 14 weeks.

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

steady levels = less sides..

 

[TM4N]

for a starting cycle how does this sound:

both injected on sunday
400mg test per week
200mg deca per week

13 weeks on deca and 15 weeks on test but last two weeks cut the 400mg in half so 200mg per week. would that be efffective? tell me what you guys think.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

200mg of deca wont do much for building muscle

 

[topbod]

200mg of deca wont do much for building muscle

it wont' do much? so 300mg is better?

 

[stang50]

300 is the minimum i would use deca at

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

greazy says he sees results at 300-so at least that.

ive always been told no less than 400

 

[TM4N]

dammit. I've got to get another vial.

 

[Teutonic]

I d do 500 test only for 12 weeks.
If you have side s you ll no where they came from and how to best combat them

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i didnt realize it was his first cycle-i would advise not to run deca on this bro

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

greazy says he sees results at 300-so at least that.

ive always been told no less than 400

200mg is a waste of money.. 300mg youll see results .. 400mg is ideal.. but keep in mind everyone is different.. some may not see anything from 400mg.. i personally do.. then again ive never had to take more than 500mg of test in my entire life.. some guys on here double that to see good gains.. ive been "using" (drug addict word) juice for i guess around 12yrs and never broke 500mg p/w.. so like i said everyones different..

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

i get great results from 400mg of equipoise and im sure most here will say 600mg atleast..

 

[MGunz]

everyone says test only for a first cycle. The reason these guys are saying don't run the deca is becuase if you get sides (ex. Gyno), you won't know which compound it's coming from. Test will spike up your estrogen and deca will do the same to your prolactin, so you will have a bigger chance of getting sides.

I don't know why no one reccomends this and correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a good first cycle be test at 400 or 500mg for 12 weeks and maybe Anavar or T-Bol for first 5-6 weeks. Basically kickstart it with a oral that gives less sides, and is less potent than somthing llike D-Bol.

Id peronally go with
test 500mg w1-12
T-Bol 40mg w1-5

this way you don't have to wait 4-5 weeks to notice a difference.
I know on my first cycle I was expecting the test to be working 20 minutes after my first shot lol, and I was dissapointed when I realized that's not how it works, hence the TBol kickstart

Top, whats your PCT look like?

 

[TM4N]

I actually know top in real life, we graduated from high school together. We have the exact same cycle and post cycle therapy (pct). So we will be running:

(mgs) Every Day (except for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) last three weeks every three days)
Clomid 300 200 100 50 50 50
Nolva 40 20 20 10
Arimidex .25 .25 .25 .25 .25

HCG - 500ui/day for three weeks