test 400 fight labs

[magicmike]

OHHHHH WOWWWW Dan fckin Freeman!! With a signature and picture!!! WOWWWW


That is Marketing 101 bro and does not mean it's a great product. There are other companies and products that have been out longer with outstanding reputations so I don't know what you're talking about. Proprietary Blends Are Bad, they are only used to hide the low doses of worth whiled ingredients on the label with other bullshit..

@mlupi319. I'm not trying to have a go at you and I don't mean any disrespect. You come off very confident In what what you say and definately have a strong opinion. Almost as if you've had
many years of experience. You were very quick to mock Dan Freeman who's been in bodybuilding and fighting for over 25 years. I remember him from the very first UFC super fights. He was Ken Shamrocks cornerman and nutritionist and strength coach for the Lions Den. This was back when they were dominating the UFC. I was very surprised to see your bio and profile:

"I've been dieting and exercising for 4yrs solid. The first 2yrs I spent dropping all my baby fat going from over 210lbs (over 25% bf) to 145lbs nearly 6%bf. Currently 175lbs 10%bf - height 5'8"

I'm not saying I am qualified by any means or that I'm any better than you, so please don't take offense. Based on your own bio and stats you are absolutely unqualified to give anyone advice on getting bigger or stronger. Now with regards to losing weight and bodyfat, that's a different story. I'm very impressed with how much bodyfat you've dropped and been able to keep off. 10 % is pretty good for working any going to school. You've only been training 4 years and you"re major is finance not biochemistry.

 

[Mccloud]

Solid, I give it to my clients

what do u guys think of test 400 fightlabs. they reviews on every website are really good or straight horrible. please share your gains with the product?

Solid product, I give it to my clients who are hard gainers. Pop 2 caps a day and good to go. Makes me look good as a trainer. Don't go crazy and stack with other things, you don't need to. Plenty strong by itself....

 

[Mccloud]

Well if it's 2 pro-hormones + Aromatase inhibitor (AI) stack than it it sucks no matter what's in it...Why? Because you will pay more for a company to put these in 1 pill so you're better off just buying the supplements separate. Not to mention what happens when you get a bad side effect (such as low estrogen) you won't be able to reduce only the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) so you really have less control..

Let me tell you something that's a good thing, most people should not have control. The reason all the good supps get pulled Are clowns that have no business formulating and experimenting on themselves. You should hear some of the crazy ideas I hear from clients. They start stacking this and that and its nothing but problems. Example, I've had more than one client secretly shoot Deca becuz they heard somewhere it's good for joints. So they do this and wonder why they can't get hard and their nipples burn.

 

[Mccloud]

@mlupi319. I'm not trying to have a go at you and I don't mean any disrespect. You come off very confident In what what you say and definately have a strong opinion. Almost as if you've had
many years of experience. You were very quick to mock Dan Freeman who's been in bodybuilding and fighting for over 25 years. I remember him from the very first UFC super fights. He was Ken Shamrocks cornerman and nutritionist and strength coach for the Lions Den. This was back when they were dominating the UFC. I was very surprised to see your bio and profile:

"I've been dieting and exercising for 4yrs solid. The first 2yrs I spent dropping all my baby fat going from over 210lbs (over 25% bf) to 145lbs nearly 6%bf. Currently 175lbs 10%bf - height 5'8"

I'm not saying I am qualified by any means or that I'm any better than you, so please don't take offense. Based on your own bio and stats you are absolutely unqualified to give anyone advice on getting bigger or stronger. Now with regards to losing weight and bodyfat, that's a different story. I'm very impressed with how much bodyfat you've dropped and been able to keep off. 10 % is pretty good for working any going to school. You've only been training 4 years and you"re major is finance not biochemistry.

Bro 5'8" 145 is small. Even @6%. The cut off for the lightweight class at most shows is 154 1/4 and most of those guys are 5 foot or under. Get yourself to trainer, in the long run its worth the money. Life is too short to be small. You'd have to at least 205 to even look like you train...

 

[mlupi319]

Bro 5'8" 145 is small. Even @6%. The cut off for the lightweight class at most shows is 154 1/4 and most of those guys are 5 foot or under. Get yourself to trainer, in the long run its worth the money. Life is too short to be small. You'd have to at least 205 to even look like you train...

It's 156 for lightweight in the UFC (Yes you can be 1lb over the max weight) and Donald Cerrone fights @lightweight and he is 6ft tall...your statement is 100% false

...I'm currently 175lbs

 

[mlupi319]

@mlupi319. I'm not trying to have a go at you and I don't mean any disrespect. You come off very confident In what what you say and definately have a strong opinion. Almost as if you've had
many years of experience. You were very quick to mock Dan Freeman who's been in bodybuilding and fighting for over 25 years. I remember him from the very first UFC super fights. He was Ken Shamrocks cornerman and nutritionist and strength coach for the Lions Den. This was back when they were dominating the UFC. I was very surprised to see your bio and profile:

"I've been dieting and exercising for 4yrs solid. The first 2yrs I spent dropping all my baby fat going from over 210lbs (over 25% bf) to 145lbs nearly 6%bf. Currently 175lbs 10%bf - height 5'8"

I'm not saying I am qualified by any means or that I'm any better than you, so please don't take offense. Based on your own bio and stats you are absolutely unqualified to give anyone advice on getting bigger or stronger. Now with regards to losing weight and bodyfat, that's a different story. I'm very impressed with how much bodyfat you've dropped and been able to keep off. 10 % is pretty good for working any going to school. You've only been training 4 years and you"re major is finance not biochemistry.

Yes training and researching for 4years, so I have an undergraduates degree in this shit so to speak....You seem to have failed to point out where I am wrong so you're turning to my stats? and I'm pretty proud that I have lost over 60lbs of fat and packed on over 20lbs of muscle, in the past 4 years how much fat have you lost and muscle have you gained?

Either way you're not going to convince me, or anyone with a sensible mind, that not knowing the dose of pro-hormones that you are consuming is a good thing....

 

[Mccloud]

It's 156 for lightweight in the UFC (Yes you can be 1lb over the max weight) and Donald Cerrone fights @lightweight and he is 6ft tall...your statement is 100% false

...I'm currently 175lbs

Not so fast bro, I'm talking about Bodybuilding not the UFC. You may be 175lbs but it your bio says 10%. Donald Cerrone is well below 10%.
5'8" 175 @ 10% is not the Cowboy my friend.
You can be 1lb over in Fighting, but not even 1/4 over in bodybuilding. They will move you up the next class. In fighting they give you 1lb and if its more than that the fighter is disqualified unless the other fighter agree's to fight. If a belt is involved then the fight may continue, but not for the belt.
Funny you pull Donald Cerrone out of the air. He's a least 6'.0" and maybe the leanest guy out there. Your 5'8" bro and no where near ripped at 10%. Cerrone is a good goal, but not realistic.

 

[Mccloud]

Yes training and researching for 4years, so I have an undergraduates degree in this shit so to speak....You seem to have failed to point out where I am wrong so you're turning to my stats? and I'm pretty proud that I have lost over 60lbs of fat and packed on over 20lbs of muscle, in the past 4 years how much fat have you lost and muscle have you gained?

Either way you're not going to convince me, or anyone with a sensible mind, that not knowing the dose of pro-hormones that you are consuming is a good thing....

Come on bro, training and researching for 4 years doesn't give you an undergraduates degree in "this shit". Losing 60lbs of fat is a big accomplishment. 20lbs of muscle is a good start. By your logic, every contestant on the Biggest Loser has a PHD. The only way to have an "Undergraduates" degree in this is to A. actually go to college and study
Bio Chemistry or B. have many years of real world experience training and using different products. Believe me bro, when you do this for a living day in and day out you meet all kinds of people. They tell you what their taking and why and everyone, I mean EVERYONE thinks they got it down. If you find something that works for you and you know a few other people with the same experience I don't see a problem with it.

 

[mlupi319]

Come on bro, training and researching for 4 years doesn't give you an undergraduates degree in "this shit". Losing 60lbs of fat is a big accomplishment. 20lbs of muscle is a good start. By your logic, every contestant on the Biggest Loser has a PHD. The only way to have an "Undergraduates" degree in this is to A. actually go to college and study
Bio Chemistry or B. have many years of real world experience training and using different products. Believe me bro, when you do this for a living day in and day out you meet all kinds of people. They tell you what their taking and why and everyone, I mean EVERYONE thinks they got it down. If you find something that works for you and you know a few other people with the same experience I don't see a problem with it.

So what's your argument? I must have missed it...Did you go to school? how bout grad school? guess what doesn't matter when your not making an argument other than "I don't have a degree in biochem" yes I know so please point out what statement I have made that is incorrect or misinformed please.

 

[mlupi319]

My statements have nothing to do with biochem and how these compounds work in the body. I am making statements as a consumer of supplements/aas/ph/ds. I would not buy a supp just because a "well-known" name is backing the product. He still wants to make money and signing a fckin bottle is a marketing ploy and everything this company does screams BULLSHIT (cough cough proprietary blends)

OH am I qualified enough to spot out strategic business moves that pull in customers but aren't worth shit?

 

[Mccloud]

So what's your argument? I must have missed it...Did you go to school? how bout grad school? guess what doesn't matter when your not making an argument other than "I don't have a degree in biochem" yes I know so please point out what statement I have made that is incorrect or misinformed please.

my point is you claim to have a "undergraduate" degree in AAS/PH and training because you worked out for 4 years??? After 4 years you're 175lb @10%?? You realize that you are invisible at the gym. With those stats you blend into the crowd. On the street there is nothing about those stats that would indicate to anyone you even train.
Bro your braggin about putting on 20lbs of muscle?? Do you realize you would have to put on another 20lbs just to look like you workout.
Your 4 years of research should of revealed that the first 20lbs of muscle is easy when you never worked out before. Let me clue you in, the next 20lbs could take a lifetime.
If you doubt it, do some more research. Tell
me I'm not right.

Yes I did go to school, I've been out the University about as long as you've been alive. I'm gonna guess and say your between 19-22. My degree in in Business, not Bio-Chem. I've been training since I was 13. I was a hard gainer and had to fight for every pound. I've go 30 years in this game brother. I know how hard it's gonna be for someone like you to get to 195 @6%.
Really educate yourself, get to a trainer.

 

[Mccloud]

My statements have nothing to do with biochem and how these compounds work in the body. I am making statements as a consumer of supplements/aas/ph/ds. I would not buy a supp just because a "well-known" name is backing the product. He still wants to make money and signing a fckin bottle is a marketing ploy and everything this company does screams BULLSHIT (cough cough proprietary blends)

OH am I qualified enough to spot out strategic business moves that pull in customers but aren't worth shit?

Kid, try to follow me here. I'm going to put my business hat on. The market decides if a product is going to be successful or not. No matter who's name is on the bottle or who signed it. Those business tactics may help grab the attention of the consumer and help the product stand out on the shelf. If the product doesn't perform and the consumer doesn't get the desired result the market will
speak and the product will die.

With regards to this particular product, I've tried it and had a good experience. I now share that product with other consumers who I happen to train. These are discerning people of means who want results. They don't want to take a concoction of several different products in hopes of a good result.
I tell them to take one capsule twice daily and they get the desired result. The consumer is happy and refers other friends and associates to me for training.

You see the market has spoken. The product performance exceeded what was promised on the flashy label. You may get someone one time with marketing tactics, but they won't come back and they certainly won't recommend to a friend.

Bro are you one of those occupy wall street pro-Obama students? You were probably too young to vote for him the first time. You're studying finance, aren't they teaching you this stuff. You must be taking a marketing class, you're so paranoid about strategic marketing tactics. Every time you purchase anything you are subjected to a marketing tactic of some sort. Unless you're Amish and live in Lancaster, PA.

Bro you do realize that most the products on the market are proprietary blends. This is usually done for one of two reasons. 1. To hide under dosed ingredients or 2. To hide valuable proprietary information, such as the
optimal effective dose of each ingredient.
This keeps competitors from knocking off a product and selling it at Walmart.
I bet you can tell me whats in a Coca Cola, but I bet you can't make it taste the same and neither can any other company.
Supplement companies are notorious for knocking off each other.

Lets test this. One of the most successful prohormone products ever on the market was SUS 500 by GET.INC. It reached its peak in 2009. This was a "proprietary blend". The product was so good that high school football coaches were busted for having there players get on it. SUS500 was everywhere and companies were trying to knock it off with similar compounds. The thing is they could never get it to work as good as the real SUS500. They didn't have the recipe.
Bro go ahead and google it, tell me I'm wrong.

 

[Lattimer99]

Kid, try to follow me here. I'm going to put my business hat on. The market decides if a product is going to be successful or not. No matter who's name is on the bottle or who signed it. Those business tactics may help grab the attention of the consumer and help the product stand out on the shelf. If the product doesn't perform and the consumer doesn't get the desired result the market will
speak and the product will die.

With regards to this particular product, I've tried it and had a good experience. I now share that product with other consumers who I happen to train. These are discerning people of means who want results. They don't want to take a concoction of several different products in hopes of a good result.
I tell them to take one capsule twice daily and they get the desired result. The consumer is happy and refers other friends and associates to me for training.

You see the market has spoken. The product performance exceeded what was promised on the flashy label. You may get someone one time with marketing tactics, but they won't come back and they certainly won't recommend to a friend.

Bro are you one of those occupy wall street pro-Obama students? You were probably too young to vote for him the first time. You're studying finance, aren't they teaching you this stuff. You must be taking a marketing class, you're so paranoid about strategic marketing tactics. Every time you purchase anything you are subjected to a marketing tactic of some sort. Unless you're Amish and live in Lancaster, PA.

Bro you do realize that most the products on the market are proprietary blends. This is usually done for one of two reasons. 1. To hide under dosed ingredients or 2. To hide valuable proprietary information, such as the
optimal effective dose of each ingredient.
This keeps competitors from knocking off a product and selling it at Walmart.
I bet you can tell me whats in a Coca Cola, but I bet you can't make it taste the same and neither can any other company.
Supplement companies are notorious for knocking off each other.

Lets test this. One of the most successful prohormone products ever on the market was SUS 500 by GET.INC. It reached its peak in 2009. This was a "proprietary blend". The product was so good that high school football coaches were busted for having there players get on it. SUS500 was everywhere and companies were trying to knock it off with similar compounds. The thing is they could never get it to work as good as the real SUS500. They didn't have the recipe.
Bro go ahead and google it, tell me I'm wrong.

That's hilarious, my college football coach had us take Sus500. Ah those little blue soft gels did the trick. They were a proprietary blend, 13 ethyl, 4-esta, Atd. Didn't know how much of each, didn't care. Don't know about marketing tricks, coach said take this so we did.

 

[Lattimer99]

Worked for me

what do u guys think of test 400 fightlabs. they reviews on every website are really good or straight horrible. please share your gains with the product?

Took this one too. I'll probably take it again this summer. Nice hard dry gains, you gotta each though. Otherwise you'll get stronger but won't put on the pounds. I've tried a lot of OTC products and real AAS when I played football. The Fight labs Test400 has been the best since sus500 went away. Make sure you get the fight labs test400, I know there's some other gear with the same name. This is the yellow/black bottle with the big lion.

 

[Lattimer99]

I ran 8 weeks of Test400 in the beginning of 2012. I weighed 178 when I started and ended up 193 lbs. I'm only 5'9" so the size increase looked pretty dramatic. All my 1 rep max numbers shot up after about 10 days. I kept improving all through the 8 weeks.
All of you are wrong about the ingredients.
There is no DHEA, Tren or Oxyguno.
yamar1 I have no idea what your friend took,probably some other product with a similar name. My bottle says 13 ethyl,4 chloro,
6bromo,bioperine,carnosyn.
From what I can figure a combo of Max LMG, Haldrol, with 6-bromo for an AI.
All I know is that my gains were hard and lean, no bloat. I'm about 3 months post cycle and have retained about 85%,so I'm pretty happy. I took the fight labs post cycle therapy (pct) Estro-test.
As far as mixed review, I did a lot of research before I decided on Test400. From what I could tell all the positive reviews were from people who actually tried it. All the negative reviews were from people who never tried it or never heard of it or had an opinion on the ingredients based on the wrong info.
Im very happy with my results. Good luck..

OMG you're right on about the reviews. Even on this thread all the negative reviews are from dudes that haven't tried it. Everyone that has had good results. That's sad, I'm gonna remember this next time I ask someone for advice, LOL!

 

[mlupi319]

What's your argument? That I don't look big enough to not like this product? Or that since the "market" has let this product live I should take it?

Get this weak heater shit out of here

 

[mlupi319]

With regards to this particular product, I've tried it and had a good experience. I now share that product with other consumers who I happen to train. These are discerning people of means who want results. They don't want to take a concoction of several different products in hopes of a good result.

Bro you do realize that most the products on the market are proprietary blends. This is usually done for one of two reasons. 1. To hide under dosed ingredients or 2. To hide valuable proprietary information, such as the
optimal effective dose of each ingredient.
This keeps competitors from knocking off a product and selling it at Walmart.
I bet you can tell me whats in a Coca Cola, but I bet you can't make it taste the same and neither can any other company.
Supplement companies are notorious for knocking off each other.

I think prop blends are a weak excuse for a company to protect its lack of a competitive advantage. If another company can replicate a recipe given their resources they should do so and bring their product to the market...increase competition will lower the price and benefit the consumer.

 

[mlupi319]

Bro are you one of those occupy wall street pro-Obama students? You were probably too young to vote for him the first time. You're studying finance, aren't they teaching you this stuff. You must be taking a marketing class, you're so paranoid about strategic marketing tactics. Every time you purchase anything you are subjected to a marketing tactic of some sort. Unless you're Amish and live in Lancaster, PA.

YES! I want to occupy wall street...In the CEO stock option golden parachute kinda way

 

[Lattimer99]

What's your argument? That I don't look big enough to not like this product? Or that since the "market" has let this product live I should take it?

Get this weak heater shit out of here

Hey guy, if that were the case the Chinese would take over the world. No one can copy like they can.

 

[Lattimer99]

I think prop blends are a weak excuse for a company to protect its lack of a competitive advantage. If another company can replicate a recipe given their resources they should do so and bring their product to the market...increase competition will lower the price and benefit the consumer.

Sorry about that Guy, I meant to respond here. The Chinese can and will copy anything we make.