Test Deca Cycle Question with Estradiol

[grayrh42]

So been on a Test Cyp (500mg/wk), Deca (400mg/wk) cycle now for about 5 weeks. Had labs done before i started and everything looked good, on a TRT schedule of 125mg/wk and keep track of the Estradiol pretty close. Generally do a .25mg dex e3d to help keep it in check
Just got my labs back from 5 weeks and was surprised to see my Estradiol had climbed to 72.9 (scale 7.6 to 42.6), did not do the sensitive test though. I upped my dex to .5mg every M/W/F and thought that would take care of things since I was pretty good on my TRT dosage. Test came back at >1500 so that is good. Prolactin came back at 14 (scale 4 to 15.2). Just started taking some Prami, (.125 ed, will work up over time) as have started to get a little deca dick

Question is does the Test Deca combination effect Estradiol even more than just a Test cycle would? I would not have thought at the levels I was taking that the .5 dex M/W/F would not have been covering things. Not really feeling any sides to high Estradiol at this time either. Do have some Tamox on hand incase though.

 

[SJC]

I have heard Tren will show a false reading of high E2. I was kinda wondering about Deca myself being it too is a 19nor.

 

[Roush]

Deca aromatizes just like testosterone does, albeit to a far lesser degree.. If your running deca and test together at high levels then more AI will be needed then just a standard dose of test only

 

[tbonexl]

If you were running that adex dose at trt levels, obviously you'll have to raise it on a blast. No surprise there at all.

 

[grayrh42]

So to be clear, was running .25mg e3d on TRT and upped the dosage to .5mg every M/W/F, so more than doubled it. I realized that Deca aromatized as well, but thought it was a real small amount.
Had not heard about the other 19nor's giving false readings for E2?? Has anyone else ever heard this??
Guess, otherwise will be upping the dex dosage to bring the E2 down. Really want to control the E2 so I don't have the Prolactin issues come on strong.

 

[DucBase]

Are you getting the Adex through a doctor and pharmacy (you mention TRT)? It would be good to rule that out as I've bought bunk UGL Adex before.

I think I've read that Deca aromatizes about 20% as much as test, so I can't see needing to more than double the Adex as much as I could see your Adex not doing shit and you just not noticing on the low TRT dose.

 

[Roush]

Are you getting the Adex through a doctor and pharmacy (you mention TRT)? It would be good to rule that out as I've bought bunk UGL Adex before.

I think I've read that Deca aromatizes about 20% as much as test, so I can't see needing to more than double the Adex as much as I could see your Adex not doing shit and you just not noticing on the low TRT dose.

He's running 900 mg a week (500'test 400 deca).. That's not trt , he's blasting.. He's gonna need more Adex on a blast,, his recent bloods just proved that.

OP - on my blast I'm personally doing .5 mg M/W/F as well.. Will get bloods in a few weeks to see where I stand.. Running test, deca, NPP, Dbol to start

 

[DucBase]

Yeah I got that. It's just that I thought he may be getting the Adex through a TRT doc, since he is on TRT. My first blast I used some stuff from a fairly well know UGL and had my E2 drift just a little high. When I ordered some stuff from RUI to replace it I promptly crashed my E2 hard...turns out the first batch of Adex was completely bunk. It was just a thought...easy enough to rule out.

 

[Roush]

Yeah I got that. It's just that I thought he may be getting the Adex through a TRT doc, since he is on TRT. My first blast I used some stuff from a fairly well know UGL and had my E2 drift just a little high. When I ordered some stuff from RUI to replace it I promptly crashed my E2 hard...turns out the first batch of Adex was completely bunk. It was just a thought...easy enough to rule out.

Definitely - I keep both RUI products on hand as well as AI from my trt script..getting bloods done often to make sure your compounds are legit is def a good idea

 

[grayrh42]

The Adex is RUI liquid and I have always had good luck with it in the past. I understand the blast part Roush and have upped the amount of Adex that I normally take on TRT to more than double to accommodate the blast. Was just surprised that the E2 was still that high as I didn't think the Deca would count for that much of an increase. I had done a Test only run awhile back and was not close to the .5 mg M/W/F that I am doing now and didn't have any issues. Ran the same 500 mg Test on that one.

Anyway, labs don't lie so will up the dex and retest in a couple weeks. Just have always been very leary of crashing E2 as I think that is worse than high E2.

 

[Roush]

The Adex is RUI liquid and I have always had good luck with it in the past. I understand the blast part Roush and have upped the amount of Adex that I normally take on TRT to more than double to accommodate the blast. Was just surprised that the E2 was still that high as I didn't think the Deca would count for that much of an increase. I had done a Test only run awhile back and was not close to the .5 mg M/W/F that I am doing now and didn't have any issues. Ran the same 500 mg Test on that one.

Anyway, labs don't lie so will up the dex and retest in a couple weeks. Just have always been very leary of crashing E2 as I think that is worse than high E2.

I hear you,, buddy of mine crashed his e2 and abondaned his whole cycle.
Is your deca a prescription or UGL? Hopefully it's not bunk gear, just faked and is test e or something,, which would account for the spike if it was,, you'd basically be running 900 mg of test if the deca is nothing more then test

But again deca does aromatize and effect e2,, probably to diff degrees in diff individuals

 

[tbonexl]

Your body is constantly changing. What worked a while back, won't work now. I don't think u have bunk gear you just never adjusted your ai dose properly till it was too late.