Test E and D-bol cycle

[USAF]

I'm sorry but I'm calling on this (for the 20th time). No one gains 30lbs on Dbol and keeps most of it unless its fat and water. That's not what Dbol does. You're certainly not doing it in 4 weeks.

And even if you could gain that much muscle, hell even half that much, your body would revert to homeostasis so fast it woudn't be funny. Again, not happening.

I'd try and refrain from posting bullshit like this out there as its hard enough to get newbs to NOT do Dbol only cycles, much less tell them they can make 30lb keepable gains, all in 4 weeks no less.

Why can't someone cycle dbol only and keep 75% of the gains without being fat or holding all kinds of water?

Truth is, from what I have read, most people dont retain much from dbol post cycle.

Hell man, I think it is possible. I mean after all it is a steroid.

I have a question. If someone came here having taken pictures of before dbol, and after(6weeks) and had the water testing done to provide their exact bf% before and after and it was the same, you would not believe them?

 

[RJ]

Why can't someone cycle dbol only and keep 75% of the gains without being fat or holding all kinds of water?

Truth is, from what I have read, most people dont retain much from dbol post cycle.

Hell man, I think it is possible. I mean after all it is a steroid.

I have a question. If someone came here having taken pictures of before dbol, and after(6weeks) and had the water testing done to provide their exact bf% before and after and it was the same, you would not believe them?

I figured you would ask questions about this.

My point was this. I never said you couldn't gain muscle on Dbol only. I called bullshit on the time it took. Its physically impossible for a man to gain that much muscle in 4 weeks, even half that is nearly impossible. The body just can't do that, and like i said, even if it did, homeostasis would take over. Hell, on 12 week cycles it takes over and it makes it hard as hell for people to retain.

And to answer your question, no i wouldn't, because i know its physically impossible. So the pics would be fake.

Again, this is why these forums are bad sometimes. A newb will see this and say "holy shit, i can gain 30 keepable pounds on a 4 week dbol only cycle."

He called it catabolic spiral or whatever. I call it bullshit gains of fat and water that was quickly lost post cycle. Whether he tried to cut or not, he still would be back to that original weight, give or take a few pounds.

Again...

 

[TGO]

I figured you would ask questions about this.

My point was this. I never said you couldn't gain muscle on Dbol only. I called bullshit on the time it took. Its physically impossible for a man to gain that much muscle in 4 weeks, even half that is nearly impossible. The body

Again, this is why these forums are bad sometimes. A newb will see this and say "holy shit, i can gain 30 keepable pounds on a 4 week dbol only cycle."

He called it catabolic spiral or whatever. I call it bullshit gains of fat and water that was quickly lost post cycle. Whether he tried to cut or not, he still would be back to that original weight, give or take a few pounds.

Again...

So according to that statement from you i should of went back to 150lbs? my starting weight before the Dbol? Well sorry but even though you probably won't believe this either but i never seen 150lbs ever again... most i ever went down to was 165lbs after that cycle, also i never said i gained all muscle i admitted i gained a bunch of water. What i said was i managed to maintain that weight of which i gained up until i decided to go into this cardio phase and mess it all up not eating enough and over training. I think it's funny that because one guy never seen results like that it has to be impossible lol.... ok dude.

Btw i gained some fat as well as water but i could tell the difference between 30 pounds of fat and water compared to muscle gain. I wouldn't be bragging about gaining 30lbs water and fat on a cycle cmon dude lol.... anyways i feel like i hijacked this guys thread and that ain't cool so ill leave this convo alone now peace.

 

[khan]

testolic with dianabol

'plz let knw. My question is i hav already a gynetic problem of gyno.can i start my cycle with dianabol and testetolic?

 

[RJ]

So according to that statement from you i should of went back to 150lbs? my starting weight before the Dbol? Well sorry but even though you probably won't believe this either but i never seen 150lbs ever again... most i ever went down to was 165lbs after that cycle, also i never said i gained all muscle i admitted i gained a bunch of water. What i said was i managed to maintain that weight of which i gained up until i decided to go into this cardio phase and mess it all up not eating enough and over training. I think it's funny that because one guy never seen results like that it has to be impossible lol.... ok dude.

Btw i gained some fat as well as water but i could tell the difference between 30 pounds of fat and water compared to muscle gain. I wouldn't be bragging about gaining 30lbs water and fat on a cycle cmon dude lol.... anyways i feel like i hijacked this guys thread and that ain't cool so ill leave this convo alone now peace.

nope, not what i said at all. Homeostasis doesn't mean you automatically go back to your starting weight. Its just the bodies way of trying to get back there as fast as possible when you gain a bunch of muscle.

What i find funny is how it went from

Gained 30 plus pounds on a 4 week dbol cycle and actually kept most believe it on not

to

I will admit i did gain a lot of water on the dbol but even after i lost the water weight i managed to stay around the same weight after the cycle and fluxuate my weight at 180-185 lbs. I was around 150 when i did the cycle ... again i have no reason to lie

Matter of fact after the cycle i wanted to get cut so i did alot of cardio for 2 months straight and i actually lost some muscle due to catabolic spiral not eating right or enough and over doing the cardio. I got down to 165lbs and stayed that weight for years on after.

to

most i ever went down to was 165lbs after that cycle, also i never said i gained all muscle i admitted i gained a bunch of water. What i said was i managed to maintain that weight of which i gained up until i decided to go into this cardio phase and mess it all up not eating enough and over training. I think it's funny that because one guy never seen results like that it has to be impossible lol.... ok dude.

Btw i gained some fat as well as water but i could tell the difference between 30 pounds of fat and water compared to muscle gain

I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. But it went from kept most all my gains to i went back to 165lbs. Honestly, i don't care.

Newbs. You will not gain anything like this on Dbol only except for the last admittance he made. Like i said, mostly fat and water. And you will lose most of that. And in 4 weeks most muscle gains you made will quickly be lost due to homeostasis. MOST, not all, but most.

Point here. Don't do Dbol only cycles. dazza, i know we hijacked your thread and I apologize. I know you clearly stated that was a mistake doing a Dbol only cycle so this wasn't directed at you.

 

[TGO]

nope, not what i said at all. Homeostasis doesn't mean you automatically go back to your starting weight. Its just the bodies way of trying to get back there as fast as possible when you gain a bunch of muscle.

What i find funny is how it went from



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I'm not gonna argue with you anymore. But it went from kept most all my gains to i went back to 165lbs. Honestly, i don't care.

Newbs. You will not gain anything like this on Dbol only except for the last admittance he made. Like i said, mostly fat and water. And you will lose most of that. And in 4 weeks most muscle gains you made will quickly be lost due to homeostasis. MOST, not all, but most.

Point here. Don't do Dbol only cycles. dazza, i know we hijacked your thread and I apologize. I know you clearly stated that was a mistake doing a Dbol only cycle so this wasn't directed at you.

this guy sayin this probably does a cycle like this

1000 mgs of test
50 mgs of dbol
600 mgs of deca
600 mgs of EQ

just to gain 10 lbs and keep 5

id disagree too but im sure he wont disagree wit wat he takes just to gain lol

i showed dis thread to my friends and they dapped me off for you not believeing me lol thanks for the confidence

 

[RJ]

this guy sayin this probably does a cycle like this

1000 mgs of test
50 mgs of dbol
600 mgs of deca
600 mgs of EQ

just to gain 10 lbs and keep 5

id disagree too but im sure he wont disagree wit wat he takes just to gain lol

i showed dis thread to my friends and they dapped me off for you not believeing me lol thanks for the confidence

i didn't understand one word of that last post.

 

[va703]

I did a 1 week dbal cycle at 10mg a day and gained 75bs lean muscle mass, so sure I believe you.

 

[Saku39]

Wow, it's unfortunate that someone who has lifted for 4 years, posts online about steroids, is able to get them, and claims they "eat loads, but no joy" at 140 lbs and 5'11.

If he didn't list the height, the only way he would have any accurate knowledge would be if he were essentially if he had the height and frame of a midget....and even then he wouldnt need that much gear.

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

Hey TGO go fuck yourself. Have a nice day.