Test E or Test P for first cycle?

[Ythrashin]

Really ????

You honestly beleive that.......hahaha......that would be the exception to the norm.

I guess after you've read as many threads by newbies as I have over the years, you'd think differently.

Also, when I do EOD injects, I use 6 sites minimum, not only to avoid sterile abcesses but scar tissue as well.

Yep, even when using 6 sites I sometimes feel like its not enough space in between injects. I'll sometimes throw a pecs, calves or biceps into the rotation...

 

[Massive123]

I'm sure many shoot in the butt but look ^^^^^^. Most newbies don't run test p either but hey if the shoe fits....

 

[Massive123]

Thanks for chiming in JJ

 

[Scarz]

I'd have to disagree with my fellow mods and admins lol

I'm leaning toward prop for first cycle over anything else.

 

[snigg]

im also a noob on my first cycle. 4 pins in and i've only pinned my quads. most likely ill continue rotating quads for the duration of my cycle.

 

[Ythrashin]

Not good Snigg you should throw a couple more inject sites into your rotation.

 

[C Wood]

I'm 29 days into a prop and test E cycle.The prop was used to front load and from week 10-12 will be upped to 150 mg ED and the E backed out so I can start PCT sooner.

This is my first ever cycle and the daily pining hasn't bothered me one bit after I figured out my quads are a big no-no for injections.

Between the HCG twice a week and 2xdaily HGH (total 5 IU daily) and the oil injections I've been poked alot.

I actually crave the pining in a twisted way,I guess I'm hooked.

 

[replica1]

W.Llewellyn ANABOLICS 2009
Testosterone propionate is, therefore, comparatively much faster-acting than other testosterone esters such as cypionate or enanthate, and requires a much more frequent dosing schedule. By most accounts testosterone propionate is an older and cruder form of injectable testosterone, made obsolete by the slower-acting and more comfortable esters that were developed subsequent to it. Still, those who are not bothered by the frequent injection schedule find testosterone propionate every bit as acceptable. As an injectable testosterone, it is a powerful mass-building drug, capable of producing rapid gains in both muscle size and strength.

Hmm I think you and your pro cyp and enanthate guys forget one very important thing.. Before you call Prop old and antiqued:Testosterone is usually attached to an ester (i.e. when you buy testosterone propionate, the subject of this profile, you are buying testosterone with a propionate ester attached). The ester determines how long it takes your body to dispose of the steroid in question, and propionate is the shortest ester available with a testosterone base (of course, testosterone suspension has no ester). There are enzymes, called esterases, in your body which have the function of removing the ester from steroids, and leaving you with just the steroid molecule with the ester cleaved off. Depending on how heavy the ester chain is, that determines how long it takes the esterase to remove it. And that amount of time determines how long the drug stays active in your body. Great, right? Not really...see, the ester takes up "room" in the injection. Check out this chart:

Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

Here, we´re comparing Testosterone with no ester (suspension) with Test Propionate and Cypionate (basically the longest vs. shortest esters available with testosterone).

So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you´ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone! The advantage to longer esters is that they need to be injected less frequently (test prop needs to be injected every other day while you can shoot test cyp once a week). The disadvantage to long estered steroids is that they contain less actual steroid.

 

[jts3034]

I am on a first cycle and using prop. I am using 25 g 5/8 pins in delts and quads and 25g 1 inch in glutes. I dont even feel the pins and the soreness I feel from the prop isnt bad at all. I am a lean guy so I took advise from another member and used the 25g pins and am glad i did. It makes self injecting a breeze. I felt the prop after the first week. My chest blew up and I am maintaining a pump much longer. I had dry skin to begin with so the oil is helping me to be honest. I am mid way into week 2. Feel great so far. Will keep u posted. Good luck.