Test e/ tren cycle - pct and estrogen

[Canthurtmenomore]

Hey everyone.
Thank you for taking the time to read.

26yr old male, 99kgs ( 89kg before cycle start ) 5"11 26% bf in stomach but lost 130lbs prior to cycling. Third cycle ( first cycle HGH, second cycle test p and stanzalol )

Current cycle on week 3 of 10:
Test E @500mg/ week for 10 weeks
Tren @ last 6 weeks at 500mg
( currently taking one shot per week of test e but will split my dosage into 2 shots per week once tren commences Thursday shot 1ml test mixed with 1ml tren and repeat Monday )

So I've yet to start my tren until next week. I've never had any issues at all for gyno or estrogen however, I plan on being safer while playing with an animal like tren. Just simply looking for the best anti estrogen for during my cycle once I start the tren aswell as a really solid pct to keep as much gains as possible. With this in mind multiple options would be greatly appreciated as I've moved from Canada to Australia and my hook ups aren't as good here and sometimes need some variation. I really appreciate any help!

 

[Roush]

I've never had any issues at all for gyno or estrogen however

during your past cycles did you ever get blood work done to prove this statement is true ? just because you did not grow tits does not mean you did not have elevated estrogen. and to be blunt, at 26% BF, your bound to be aromatizing like a mother F'er with that much fat on you.
unless your a power lifter, most guys would advise that you get down to at least 16% bf before running gear (again, main reason is estrogen sides are much harder to keep on top of when BF% is high)

 

[Canthurtmenomore]

I had some work done during the prop and stanzalol cycle. Levels were good but high blood pressure went up through the roof and had to start taking measures for that. I know I am doing a cycle when I probably should be, as have many before me. However, I seem to always get little side effects to about anything! Only thing I'm prone to is acne so ofcourse I'm sure I'll get that. Not sure if it is allowed to put an Instagram name on here so u can see my body figure?

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the boards!

 

[Roush]

I had some work done during the prop and stanzalol cycle. Levels were good but high blood pressure went up through the roof and had to start taking measures for that. I know I am doing a cycle when I probably should be, as have many before me. However, I seem to always get little side effects to about anything! Only thing I'm prone to is acne so ofcourse I'm sure I'll get that. Not sure if it is allowed to put an Instagram name on here so u can see my body figure?

keep on top of that with an AI next time. You were probably holding a ton of water from the test prop and elevated estrogen which can definitely cause hypertension.
I went form 130/70 to 200/110 on cycle one time . I learned my lesson after a trip to the doc and stay on top of what I'm doing and check BP every day when on cycle now.

you can post a pic directly into the text here with the "insert image" tool

 

[Canthurtmenomore]

Trying to figure it out

I think you are definitely right with the water retention as I've been putting on heaps of weight. Definitely trying to stay on top of everything and checking bp every day. However I will continue this cycle and would like to know the strongest estrogen blockers I can take aswell as a strong pct to come back from the shut down tren is known to cause!!

[PHP]

[/PHP]

keep on top of that with an AI next time. You were probably holding a ton of water from the test prop and elevated estrogen which can definitely cause hypertension.
I went form 130/70 to 200/110 on cycle one time . I learned my lesson after a trip to the doc and stay on top of what I'm doing and check BP every day when on cycle now.

you can post a pic directly into the text here with the "insert image" tool

 

[Canthurtmenomore]

I've lost well over 120+ lbs and in peek shape. Tho the machine says I'm that high of bf% I call bs as it grabs loose skin that is still not tightened up. I may be a little high but I've plateaud and need to move forward. I'm 4 years in to this journey and want to joint my first competition within the next few years

 

[Roush]

Arimidex or Aromasin are pretty standard AI's and will be what you'll need. Armidex is dosed around .25 mg EOD, Aromosin is around 12.5 mg daily.

as for pct and shut down, it does not matter wither its Test, Tren, or Dbol ,, shut down is equal (one is not harder then the other), shut down is 'binary' , meaning when your shut down, your shut down period (you can't be 'more' shut down then shut down).
clomid and nolva ran together is pretty standard pct protocol. There is a sticky thread on PCT, you should read that.

i personally do NOT advice that you run tren at this time. The sides can be pretty intense, nothing like you've experienced running a little test prop. I'd get a few more cycles under your belt and get to know your body and how you react to different compounds first before you decide to dance with the devil.

and first and foremost -- I'd make sure your diet and training are completely optimized for you. If that's not optimized and you start throwing AAS compounds in there, our throwing in too many variables , you don't know if the gains your are making are form the training , the diet, or just the gear. so its hard to make adjustments to any 3 of those things if you can't pin point what is working or not.

 

[Canthurtmenomore]

Roush

Thank you!
I appreciate your help for my estrogen concerns aswell as my cycle choice. I will definitely take your advice and get your pct and during cycle estrogen choices! ( sorry for my English not the best) I was originally supposed to run var rather than tren but now things came up and the only thing that became available was that. Seeing as how I had did my research on it quite a bit I figured I would try it and see where it takes me. If I were to continue with this option would u recommend maybe coming in at 200mg/ week for 2 weeks and seeing how that pans out before taking a big shot? I will try and see if var is something I can still have happen. However I do respect your opinion. I probably would have originally waited another few cycles before taking it to this level. However I have been training for nearly 10 years. So I played high school and college football as a fat d line man however. But regardless it taught me proper lifting and training young. Now that I've lost a lot of weight I base myself at approx 250g of protein per day with 160g of carbs and 80 fat which has been working great! Let me know what u think. I will do my best to do everything safely and if changing the cycle is an option I will even tho I already have the tren on hand.

keep on top of that with an AI next time. You were probably holding a ton of water from the test prop and elevated estrogen which can definitely cause hypertension.
I went form 130/70 to 200/110 on cycle one time . I learned my lesson after a trip to the doc and stay on top of what I'm doing and check BP every day when on cycle now.

you can post a pic directly into the text here with the "insert image" tool

 

[Roush]

what type/ester of Tren are you getting ? i highly recommend for a first run of tren a short ester like Ace. Also, you may want to reconsider if your married or have a live in girl friend , you may no longer have one by time the cycle is over

 

[Canthurtmenomore]

Ya no man I don't have a girlfriend or anyone for that matter. Family is back in Canada and I moved out here nearly a year ago to get away from shit. Tren ace is what I've got man! Do u truly think that ran for 6 weeks will be as bad? I find its been hit or miss with reading about it. Some get crazy experiences some doesn't faze them

what type/ester of Tren are you getting ? i highly recommend for a first run of tren a short ester like Ace. Also, you may want to reconsider if your married or have a live in girl friend , you may no longer have one by time the cycle is over

 

[Roush]

Ya no man I don't have a girlfriend or anyone for that matter. Family is back in Canada and I moved out here nearly a year ago to get away from shit. Tren ace is what I've got man! Do u truly think that ran for 6 weeks will be as bad? I find its been hit or miss with reading about it. Some get crazy experiences some doesn't faze them

well with tren ace it can be out of your system quick ,, so if sides like , not breathing well, paranoia, anxiety, insomnia, 'sleep' hallucinations, uncontrollable anger, etc. then you can stop and it will clear your system in a day or two . if the sides aren't bad, then train hard and enjoy the gains.