Test E Tren E bulk 12wk blood work

[zapete]

First post.

Been doing

1-14 150mg/wk test e
1-12 400mg/wk tren e
1-12 Dostinex 1mg/wk
1-12 Arimidex 1mg eod

Bulking at ~4000kcals, 40/40/20 macros.

Got my blood work and I'm either disappointed or confused.

I started out this cycle at
5'10
185lbs
bf: 12-13%

Now I'm
5'10
207lbs
bf:15-16%

Now for the blood work and I'm going to mention free test and E2

Before the cycle:
Free test: 0.458 nmol/L (0.31 - 1.04)
E2: 117.6 pmol/L (0.0 - 257.0)

After cycle:
Free test: 0.794 nmol/L (0.31 - 1.04)
E2: 1065.0 pmol/L (0.0 - 257.0) <--- I'm sure this is a typo on their part. Going to have to verify it tomorrow.

I don't know how to interpret this. I thought legit tren would increase my free test levels instead of leaving them slightly elevated than the baseline.

Arimidex doesn't really do anything for me in terms of bloat. This is my 3rd cycle and I've always taken it with my cycles yet I seem to bloat regardless of frequency or dosage.

More importantly, can anyone chime in on the blood work results? Thanks.

 

[halfwit]

Sounds like you've been running bunk adex my friend. 1mg EOD should most certainly not give you 290.11pg/mL E2. I'm not sure why you think tren would increase your free testosterone, but I am curious what your TOTAL testosterone values are given that high of an estradiol.

 

[zapete]

Sounds like you've been running bunk adex my friend. 1mg EOD should most certainly not give you 290.11pg/mL E2. I'm not sure why you think tren would increase your free testosterone, but I am curious what your TOTAL testosterone values are given that high of an estradiol.

Seems like it. Can I mention the lab's name or is it not allowed on this sub-forum?

Well upon surfing the net, it seems like everyone's free test seems to increase significantly through a test/tren cycle, be it the short or long ester. So that kind of arose suspicion in the tren I'm using.

Like I said, most likely a typo. I'm sure there's an extra 0 in between. I highly doubt it's 290 pg/mL seeing as how I have no sides of high E2 at all. Still have high libido, no gyno symptoms, no dizziness, no depression etc..

 

[halfwit]

Seems like it. Can I mention the lab's name or is it not allowed on this sub-forum?

Well upon surfing the net, it seems like everyone's free test seems to increase significantly through a test/tren cycle, be it the short or long ester. So that kind of arose suspicion in the tren I'm using.

Like I said, most likely a typo. I'm sure there's an extra 0 in between. I highly doubt it's 290 pg/mL seeing as how I have no sides of high E2 at all. Still have high libido, no gyno symptoms, no dizziness, no depression etc..

You can mention labs, but not sources. Yes, of course free test can increase as you increase your testosterone levels overall. There are a TON of factors that effect free test, such as SHBG and your CYP34A enzyme action - tren on its own can't do this, unless it's simply by reduction of SHBG. At least as far as I know.

You can EASILY have that level of E2 and not know it. A good guy here 49ER had bunk Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and ended up having nearly 900pg/mL E2 and didn't know he was that high. Some of us are just lucky in that we don't get gyno as easily as others. If you doubt the test results, get another done. It's 50 bucks for peace of mind.

 

[zapete]

You can mention labs, but not sources. Yes, of course free test can increase as you increase your testosterone levels overall. There are a TON of factors that effect free test, such as SHBG and your CYP34A enzyme action - tren on its own can't do this, unless it's simply by reduction of SHBG. At least as far as I know.

You can EASILY have that level of E2 and not know it. A good guy here 49ER had bunk Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and ended up having nearly 900pg/mL E2 and didn't know he was that high. Some of us are just lucky in that we don't get gyno as easily as others. If you doubt the test results, get another done. It's 50 bucks for peace of mind.

Great.

Adex = Alpha Pharma
Tren = LA Pharma

Now that you mention SHBG, it was slightly elevated before the beginning of the cycle.

Will have to check first if it's a mistake or not, otherwise yeah, it's worth those 50 bucks.

Until then, thank you very much, halfwit.

 

[zapete]

UPDATE:

So I went back to review the results of the test with my doctor and she was completely shocked by the initial readings. In fact, she said she repeated the test three times in order to make sure everything was on point.

In one of the trials, my E2 was as high as 377.3 pg/mL!

She suggested I draw blood again and do another test free of charge. Who wouldn't accept this offer? Anyway, as I have suspected, the results were skewed.

The numbers came out and they averaged out at 46.8 pg/mL which is still slightly above the range. However, it was definitely nowhere near 270+ pg/mL.

So this leads to the conclusion that my adex is bunk since my E2 did increase rather than stay at the pre-cycle range. Also keep in mind that my test e is below testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage, I believe (150mg/wk).

Was my tren bunk as well? We'll just have to wait and see after PCT.

Tip: Don't buy alpha pharma adex.