Test E/Tren E Cycle, getting some bad sides, need help....

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Light_Weight1

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Hey Guys -

Just needed to help with some sides i've been getting from teen and test.

My Cycle:

500mg test e, week 1 - 12
500mg tren e, week 1-10
caber .5 twice a week
armidiex .5 twice a week

So things were going good, I started at 230, and I am 6 weeks in and still 230, but I have probably lost about 5% bf (16% to 11%). So the results have been pretty good. But, I was thinking tren should be giving me a little more than this, I am hardly vascular. So, I decided to up the tren to 500mg from 400mg the past week. And the sides have gotten bad. I am having real trouble sleeping, and I was with a girl last night, and I literally could not get hard as I tried to bang her. So wtf is going on, i am primarily concerned with my dick because I like to get with a lot of girls, and having ED is not helping....Should I up the caber? I was fine on 400mg tren and literally had zero sides, I don't see how 100mg is doing all of this to me.

Any thoughts guys? Really need some bro advice.
 
I should also note that the problem is not libido itself I think, because I think about it and want it a lot, but the problem is when getting hard it either doesn't get hard enough, or doesn't stay hard for long....
 
Megatron28 said:
You need blood work. Check your TT, E2 and Prolactin.

When is the last time you donated blood?
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No doubt e2 and/or prolactin is off... My guess is prolactin seeing as you said you upped the tren. But it's just that, a guess. You're running an AI+DA agonist though...

Then again, adex 2x weekly I guess you are doing them with each inject. Try split it up to something more even. I was doing 2x weekly but find 3x weekly much better at keeping e2 stable.
 
if you had no problems at 400mg and you lost 5% bf in 6 weeks and stayed the same weight, why would you need to up the dose? what are you expecting the tren to do? i'd be damn happy with those results at 6 weeks in. drop back down to 400 it was working fine...
 
Got blood taken before the cycle, no problems other than slightly high BP. I look like 6 months off after the end of my previous 12 week cycle. From what I've read, it seems like the prolactin would be the main issue. Do you think doing .5 E3D would be better than .5 twice a week for caber? And maybe do something like Staunched427 said with adex, doing maybe .25mg EOD? Thoughts?

I'll try and get bloodwork as well, but its hard for me to do so currently.
 
Also....what are peoples thoughts on lowering the test to a TRT dosage, possibly 250mg, and running that with 500mg tren? I've heard its less sides, but have not tried first-hand. Anyone have experience with this?
 
SHIFTY said:
What is the purpose of donating blood? I'm just curious.
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aas can raise your rbc which raises your hematocrit which can raise your blood pressure, which can lead to ED which is what OP is worried about. Donating blood will lower RBC and in turn lower hematocrit and so on...
 
Light_Weight1 said:
Got blood taken before the cycle, no problems other than slightly high BP. I look like 6 months off after the end of my previous 12 week cycle. From what I've read, it seems like the prolactin would be the main issue. Do you think doing .5 E3D would be better than .5 twice a week for caber? And maybe do something like Staunched427 said with adex, doing maybe .25mg EOD? Thoughts?

I'll try and get bloodwork as well, but its hard for me to do so currently.
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Why can't you get blood work? Where do you live?
 
First off, you probably really don't know that you were fine with no sides at 400mg per week of Tren E, in week 5. It hasn't truly built up enough until a full 6 weeks, in my opinion. What you could be experiencing are sides from the 400 you've been taking, and now they may increase as the extra 100mg per week is about to kick in. So, get ready for that.

For sleeping, get a prescription for generic ambien. Its pretty cheap. If you don't have insurance, try 20mg of melatonin before bed. Not as good, but does work for me.


Light_Weight1 said:
Also....what are peoples thoughts on lowering the test to a TRT dosage, possibly 250mg, and running that with 500mg tren? I've heard its less sides, but have not tried first-hand. Anyone have experience with this?
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Your ED issues are because you don't have enough Testosterone, DO NOT lower it!!! High Tren/low test is great for a cut, but I get lowered libido and occasional ED every time. Remember, the Tren has a higher affinity at the receptors, so it is being preferentially absorbed over the Test already.

You've got some good experience going here, so I would advise easing back down to 400 on the Tren and upping the Test to 600. Yes, this may cause more sleeplessness and night sweats, but you'll have a dick that actually works. Probably gain a little more mass on cycle as well.
 
I run low test/high tren cycles and ive never had this problem. I use Aromasin every day and caber 3 times a week. I doubt raising your test up will help your issues. U might have an elevated e2 and too high of prolactin which will cause a limp pickle. U should get bloodwork done. I'm guessing your ai and da dose is inadequate. Raising test will just make sides worse.
 
Hugh Jerection said:
First off, you probably really don't know that you were fine with no sides at 400mg per week of Tren E, in week 5. It hasn't truly built up enough until a full 6 weeks, in my opinion. What you could be experiencing are sides from the 400 you've been taking, and now they may increase as the extra 100mg per week is about to kick in. So, get ready for that.

For sleeping, get a prescription for generic ambien. Its pretty cheap. If you don't have insurance, try 20mg of melatonin before bed. Not as good, but does work for me.




Your ED issues are because you don't have enough Testosterone, DO NOT lower it!!! High Tren/low test is great for a cut, but I get lowered libido and occasional ED every time. Remember, the Tren has a higher affinity at the receptors, so it is being preferentially absorbed over the Test already.

You've got some good experience going here, so I would advise easing back down to 400 on the Tren and upping the Test to 600. Yes, this may cause more sleeplessness and night sweats, but you'll have a dick that actually works. Probably gain a little more mass on cycle as well.
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i respectfully disagree. I think a simple trt dose is enough to keep libido and sex drive alive as long as e2 and prolactin are in check.
 
So what I'm thinking is, lowered the tren back to 400mg, see if that does anything, but i am running a longer ester so it might take a while for me to see if it does anything. Anyone have any comments on how I might change up my caber/adex dosing? Currently doing .5 of each on Monday and Thursday (I have 1mg tabs so its hard to cut into 25mg, but i can do it if someone thinks it might help).

As far as natural supplements, is there anything I get get like viagra without a prescription? Something that helps with libido preferably. Horny Goat Weed...? lol. I have a date Thursday thats the only reason I ask this part....
 
lost 5% bf in 6 wks, but you are not vascular??? I'm doubting the 5% loss in bf in that short amount of time with no loss in bodyweight... recomping is possible, but over a longer duration

sorry, just had to point that out.... back to your situation

there's no way it's upping the dosage that caused the problems as it'll take 3-4 wk for the levels to get to 500mg as it's enanthate you are on... blood work is the only way, and until then I'd take some Cialis or Viagra to keep the ladies happy
 
Light_Weight1 said:
So what I'm thinking is, lowered the tren back to 400mg, see if that does anything, but i am running a longer ester so it might take a while for me to see if it does anything. Anyone have any comments on how I might change up my caber/adex dosing? Currently doing .5 of each on Monday and Thursday (I have 1mg tabs so its hard to cut into 25mg, but i can do it if someone thinks it might help).

As far as natural supplements, is there anything I get get like viagra without a prescription? Something that helps with libido preferably. Horny Goat Weed...? lol. I have a date Thursday thats the only reason I ask this part....
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Ha e you gotten blood work yet or should we all keep playing the guessing game?
 
Looks like I'll get Bloodwork done. But I've never gotten it on cycle, what do I say to the doc when he's sees I have fucked up prolactin or estrogen, not to mention the high test levels? Can you just say I'm running x, y, z? Sorry just a noob at this...

Also anyone care to comment on a new caber/adex protocol? Perhaps more spaced out than just twice a week?

I appreciate it guys.
 
i totally agree with Hugh on this, u are now just getting hit by tren, from weeks 1-5, it was just building up, now, week 6 hits and it's totally built up and you up the dose from 400-500/week
my questions is hopefully u have previously run tren a before cause its pretty stupid to run tren e and not tren a for shit like this for first starting out with tren
u dont know the sides tren offers now it has hit u like a rock!
 
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