Test e with dbol second cycle

[Overdriven]

Hey guys first time posting here was wondering what you thought of my next cycle also had some questions planning on running
400mg test e 1-10wk
40mg Dbol 1-5wk
500ui Hcg 1-10wk

Pct
Week 1 clomid 100mg nolva 40mg
Week 2-4 clomid 50mg nolva 40mg

So couple questions should i saw on a forum a guy saying you should start with lower test then go higher then lower again for example like first week would be 250mg then by like week 5 your at 700mg then work your way back down he got no response and to me it sounds like a terrible idea but am not as knowledgable so was wondering what you guys think also is their any difference on the types of hcg is pregynl good? And lastly should i run my dbol till the 5th or 6th week? This is going to be my second cycle and my first cycle was only test e so any help would be awesome! Also im 6'4 220lbs and train 6 days a week i know its different between every person but what gains do you think i could make i was thinking 20lb? And also what calorie intake do you think i should shoot for? Thanks again

 

[SJC]

Correct, it is a hormonal roller coaster dosing Test like that.

I like 50mg of DBol personally and would extend your cycle out to 14 weeks if possible. Thats just me.

You can run the Dbol also to 6 weeks if you want but I would do 50mg a day.

What's your AI? I don't see it listed.

 

[Overdriven]

Correct, it is a hormonal roller coaster dosing Test like that.

I like 50mg of DBol personally and would extend your cycle out to 14 weeks if possible. Thats just me.

You can run the Dbol also to 6 weeks if you want but I would do 50mg a day.

What's your AI? I don't see it listed.

Ill go ahead and bump up dbol to 50mg then and the cycle to 12weeks cant do 14 because of traveling. I will have arimidex on hand in case but wasnt going to run it unless i saw signs of gyno or is it always good to run on cycle? Also what's your thoughts on adding maca root to pct?

 

[tbonexl]

Ai does nothing for gyno. It will prevent it if used. An ai isn't something to have on hand during a cycle. Use it with hcg at the beginning of cycle up to pct. When are you starting pct? Did you run an ai on your first cycle?

 

[Overdriven]

Ai does nothing for gyno. It will prevent it if used. An ai isn't something to have on hand during a cycle. Use it with hcg at the beginning of cycle up to pct. When are you starting pct? Did you run an ai on your first cycle?

Ok ill run it then and yes i did i ran .5mg eod of arimidex i just saw some people saying you dont need an ai unless your prone to gyno so wasnt sure also is 250ui twice a week good or should i dose higher? And i was planning on starting pct 10 days after my last shot of test.

 

[tbonexl]

10 days isn't a long enuff wait with test e. I'll give you a clue but you really shouldnt be listening to whatever people say. I'm not giving you bullshit but how do you know that? It's good to research these things. Pct would start 18-21 days after last pin.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Read through that link bud. It'll answer everything you should know..

 

[3J]

your question about getting 20lbs out of this cycle is going to be highly predicated on your nutrition.. make sure youre fueling your growth.. if your nutrition is poor the cycle will be a waste

 

[SJC]

Ok ill run it then and yes i did i ran .5mg eod of arimidex i just saw some people saying you dont need an ai unless your prone to gyno so wasnt sure also is 250ui twice a week good or should i dose higher? And i was planning on starting pct 10 days after my last shot of test.

Whoever said you don't need to run an AI if you aren't prone to gyno is a fool. PERIOD!

Also remember Dbol aromatises a lot more than Test. If you ran Adex at .5eod on previous cycles you may want to up it to 1mg eod while on Dbol then taper back down.

 

[Overdriven]

10 days isn't a long enuff wait with test e. I'll give you a clue but you really shouldnt be listening to whatever people say. I'm not giving you bullshit but how do you know that? It's good to research these things. Pct would start 18-21 days after last pin.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Read through that link bud. It'll answer everything you should know..

Great article man a gained a lot of solid info ill definitely push my pct back to 18 days after ive been doing research its just hard when theirs a lot of people posting on forums with the wrong info which is exactly why I made this thread to make sure everything is planned perfectly before i start my cycle.

 

[Overdriven]

your question about getting 20lbs out of this cycle is going to be highly predicated on your nutrition.. make sure youre fueling your growth.. if your nutrition is poor the cycle will be a waste

Ya thats true I feel like the nutrition part should definitely be good on my part I was a cross country personal trainer for a while so didnt lift upper body as much but always kept a good diet and trained hard so it should go well!

Whoever said you don't need to run an AI if you aren't prone to gyno is a fool. PERIOD!

Also remember Dbol aromatises a lot more than Test. If you ran Adex at .5eod on previous cycles you may want to up it to 1mg eod while on Dbol then taper back down.

I will definitely run an ai then
So my cycle looks like this now
400mg test e 1-12wk split twice a week
50mg Dbol 1-5wk
500ui Hcg 1-12wk split twice a week
1mg eod arimidex 1-5wk
.5mg eod arimidex 6-12wk

Pct (18 days after)
Week 1 clomid 100mg nolva 40mg
Week 2-4 clomid 50mg nolva 40mg

Anything else that needs to be changed or does this look good? And also a saw people saying its good to run ai all the way through pct thoughts?

 

[Overdriven]

10 days isn't a long enuff wait with test e. I'll give you a clue but you really shouldnt be listening to whatever people say. I'm not giving you bullshit but how do you know that? It's good to research these things. Pct would start 18-21 days after last pin.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Read through that link bud. It'll answer everything you should know..

Thanks man got a lot of solid info ive been trying to research as much as possible to make sure everything is perfect for the cycle before I start its just hard with a lot of people on forums giving bad info I posted an edited cycle hopefully it looks good!

 

[tbonexl]

Run ai and hcg from beginning of cycle up to pct. That's a lot of adex your running too. Should be ok with .50eod/e3d...

 

[mich29]

great advice here only thing I can add is pick up some liver support mr supps tudca

 

[bigben66]

Yeah, a bit OTT with the Adex bud... a good start point is 0.5mg E3D and then adjust according to mid-cycle bloods

 

[Overdriven]

great advice here only thing I can add is pick up some liver support mr supps tudca

Ya ill also have other supplements for liver support, fish oil, and multi vitamins and things like that! Anyone try maca root as an add on to pct? Its supposed to be like a super food that raises test naturally thoughts? And ill definitely tone down the ai then im planning on starting my cycle after i come back from vegas so im not drinking at all on my cycle so the plan is oct. 20th ill post results when i start!

 

[Overdriven]

So this might be a stupid question but is the hcg thats all over ebay for deiting different then like real hcg i know you normally need a prescription so whats the difference with ones being sold over the counter right now.