Test Ent or cyp?

[cman81]

So now you guys have told me imstead of my original plans for my cycle, to change it to test, because i am a newbie. So which should i go with test ent, Cyp? Any more suggestions. Also i might run some dbol with that, 20mg/day. I have clomid ready also. Tell me what you guys think

 

[cman81]

If you feel generous

And if you feel generous type me out a list of gear that would be good for me as a newbie to include witrh the test you recommend and clomid for pcycle

 

[Frankie xq]

400-500mg test a week (cyp or enan, doesn't matter)
optional: d-bols 35mg/day for first 4 weeks.

pct is extremely important
50mg clomid or 20mg nolva (or both) daily for 3-4 weeks, starting 2 weeks after last shot.

something tells me you haven't done enuff research. i don't know your training history, but i will assume you're 21+ and have been lifting consistently 3+ years. if not, wait till you're there.

 

[chikin]

i would go with Enanthate. Its usually cheaper and the 2 are interchangeable. You'll notice no diffence in gains between the 2.

I would start @ 400-500mg per week ( with frontload of x2 for the first wk ) and take .25mg Arimidex EOD throughout the cycle.

Post: if cycling 10wks ( last shot on wk 10 ) wait till the beginning of week 12 to begin clomid. Run the .25mg Arimi throughout post cycle as well.

Cycle:
wk 1: 1000mg T. Enanthate/.25mg Arimi EOD

wks 2-10 500 mg T. Enanthate/.25mg Arimi EOD

wk11 .25mg Arimi ED

Post cycle:
wk12 clomid 100mg ED/.25mg Arimi ED

wk13-15 clomid 50mg ED/.25mg Arimi ED

Hope that helps alittle!!!

 

[cman81]

thanks guys good info. I have posted another cycle i am thinking of trynig instead, running test sus. instead

 

[Mudge]

Sust should be injected EOD, I'd still go with enan. Week one is called a front load, unless you are buying amps that may be inconvenient.

 

[cman81]

sorry not sustenon, test suspension.

 

[kilroz]

whoah there man, don't get in over your head. that's everyday injects right there, maybe even twice a day. this is your first cycle, just stick to enan. or cyp. so you only have to inject twice a week, like monday and thursday.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Let me try to straighten up a couple points already made. Seeing as this is your first cycle.

I would not recommend front-loading. Save that for a later cycle where you know exactly how you are going to react to the compound you are planning on front-loading.

Both Frankie xq and chikin have post cycle therapy (pct) wrong.
The correct way to do Clomid is as follows;
Day 1 - 300 mg
Day 2-11 - 100 mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50 mg/day
Do NOT take Arimidex with post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[cman81]

Stonecold once again you have been more than helpful. Thanks bro

 

[chikin]

Both Frankie xq and chikin have post cycle therapy (pct) wrong.
The correct way to do Clomid is as follows;
Day 1 - 300 mg
Day 2-11 - 100 mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50 mg/day


***Do NOT take Arimidex with post cycle therapy (pct).***

Yes, do the 300mg of clomid on day one ( I was in a hurry and left that out )

"Do NOT take Arimidex with post cycle therapy (pct)." Please elaborate!!! I see no reason why you would stress that point!!!! As I see no reason not to, nor any studies to back that comment!!!!!

 

[rpwhit777]

Yes, do the 300mg of clomid on day one ( I was in a hurry and left that out )

"Do NOT take Arimidex with PCT." Please elaborate!!! I see no reason why you would stress that point!!!! As I see no reason not to, nor any studies to back that comment!!!!!

Wanna bet that he responds to say that it will negatively affect your lipid profiles????????............................!!! I already have been told this by him once before and there was info to back it up!!!!

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Wanna bet that he responds to say that it will negatively affect your lipid profiles????????............................!!! I already have been told this by him once before and there was info to back it up!!!!

Bingo !!

You will drive your estrogen levels too low, which will negatively affect your lipid profile. Ask Dr. JMW or SWALE................

I do not have studies, but sometimes just plain old common sense prevails.

 

[chikin]

Cool bro, I didn't know that, but had given it some thought!!!

 

[DUANABOL]

cman81, don't do Test Suspension. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. Stick with Test Cypionate or Enanthate. They are very similar and only have to be injected once per week which would be good for a newbie like yourself. Others may disagee, but I believe that Cypionate will make you hold more water than Enanthate. I'm only saying this b/c this was my personal experience with the drug. But both are terrific for strength, mass, and aggression. You really can't go wrong with either one, but Enanthate would be my first choice.

As far as the D-bol goes, yes, I would recommend stacking some D-bol with either Test mentioned above. There's no need for anything else for a first cycle. This should help you build some good bulk, that is if you're doing everything else right...your workouts, nutrition, and rest.

Good luck!