ok well im 23 5'11 200 pounds im not so lean maybe 10 pounds over weight. i took 500 mg of test with 500 of eq for 10 weeks gained 8 pounds but mainly all bloat. my face was round as a pumkin, started to notice hairlose and some acne not to mention so puffy nipples. i didnt feel a pump or anything. im just all confused. i have friends that also take gear that work out less then me ,drink alot more then me, but gain a substantial amount of muslce. is it possible that some races respond better then others? i know on this board im prolly one of the smallest guys but i just dont see how that much gear really didnt do much. i know you guys are going to say diet and training, but with what i was doing i went from about 170 to 200 so i dont see how gear woudnt do something even though i know there is much improvement needed on diet and training. im not even going to try another cycle till i have everything in check next time. if that doesnt work im just going to stick to be natural.