Test P and Tren E Cycle for cutting

[aviator]

I plan on running Test P and Tren E for 12 weeks, the last two weeks just straight test. I do have Test Cyp, but I figured for cutting

Test P would be better. My diet is on point my cardio I will have to step up. My last cycle was Test Cyp and Tren A for 10 weeks. So yes

I have ran tren before. The sides were fine.. Just curious if anyone has tried this cycle and if it worked well for cutting. obviously

diet and cardio play a big factor in that as well.

Test P- 600mg per week
Tren E- 400mg per week

 

[halfwit]

The ester won't matter at all, it just delivers the hormone faster/slower depending on your needs. I love test/tren and if your diet is dialed in for cutting, you'll be successful with consistent training. Good luck stepping up the cardio with tren though. Oh, I just realized you mentioned tren enanthate; I'd switch to test cyp/enanthate so you can pin them on the same days with less hassle of having to keep track of EOD or ED injects.

My .02c

 

[aviator]

I figured the prop would be better because enth and cyp have high water retention. does the water retention not matter?

 

[halfwit]

I figured the prop would be better because enth and cyp have high water retention. does the water retention not matter?

Water retention is caused by elevated estradiol levels, which are kept in check with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). The whole cyp/E causing more water retention than prop is bro-science at its finest. Test is test is test.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

drop the tren e and add tren ace

 

[bigkit34]

Personally i like tren ace better than e

 

[aviator]

I did tren a, on my last cycle for 10 weeks. I'd rather do tren e for less injections, I have never tried prop but heard its better. why do you suggest to drop the tren e, cause of sides?

 

[aviator]

Do I take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while cycling, I figured I would run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during my serm

 

[bigkit34]

Prop and ace would be injected at the same frequency eod. If your dead set on prop it would make sense to go with tren ace and pin them together. The acetate ester weighs less than the enathate ester which means you get more of the actual tren hormone

 

[bigkit34]

Yes you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle like adex or aromasin

 

[Trevdog]

Halfwit is 100% correct that the ester doesn't matter with regard to water retention. Think about it. We know that the testosterone can't work its magic unless and until the ester is removed. Once that happens, test is test is test, regardless of the ester that was attached to it before it could work for you.

Alot of people endure more injections than are necessary, with more oil volume than is necessary, and with a lot of unnecessary post injection pain - all due to the misguided notion that test prop is better for cutting. It isn't.

The short esters are good for finishing cycles when you want to switch quickly from making good gains to post cycle therapy (pct). They really aren't all that good for mid cycle.

Your cycle will be great for getting cut, I would just tweak the esters a big. It's true that tren will affect your cardio but you can push through it and get the cardio in.

 

[aviator]

Halfwit is 100% correct that the ester doesn't matter with regard to water retention. Think about it. We know that the testosterone can't work its magic unless and until the ester is removed. Once that happens, test is test is test, regardless of the ester that was attached to it before it could work for you.

Alot of people endure more injections than are necessary, with more oil volume than is necessary, and with a lot of unnecessary post injection pain - all due to the misguided notion that test prop is better for cutting. It isn't.

The short esters are good for finishing cycles when you want to switch quickly from making good gains to post cycle therapy (pct). They really aren't all that good for mid cycle.

Your cycle will be great for getting cut, I would just tweak the esters a big. It's true that tren will affect your cardio but you can push through it and get the cardio in.

Thanks bro, I have both test prop and test cyp. I still have the choice to switch to cyp. I think I might stick it out with prop though to give it a

shot. Can I just mix the tren on two of my test pinning days? I don't plan on switching from tren e to tren a, I've cycled tren a last cycle, and

wanna see how I react to tren e. I have 8 vials of test prop at 100mg/ml. 4 vials of tren e 200mg/ml and 4 vials of test cyp 250mg/ml. I'm

gonna do 12 weeks, the last two weeks just straight test. I'll give my original plan a try and see how it goes. I've read that some people do an

AI during but some don't use it unless they have too, I think I might do it during my serm.

 

[bigkit34]

You dont run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your pct serm you run it on cycle to keep estro in check