Test P + Winny Oral

[Desinho]

Hi buddies, thanks for viewing this thread

Let me first introduce myself
I'm 23 years old and have been training consistently for 4+ years
I am about to start my 1st cycle to cut for a competition.

Can yall pls comment on my planned cycle of 8 weeks

Wks 1-4
T3
25 x 6 days
50x 6 days
75 x 6 days
50 x 6 days
25 x 6 days

Clen (25 days)
40 x 5 days
60 x 5 days
80 x 5 days
60 x 5 days
40 x 5 days

then rest 1.5 week from clen while taking Bernadryl Every night


Wks 3-7
Test Prop: 50mg EOD
Winny: 20mg ED (Wks 1&2)
25mg ED (Wks 3&4)
30mg ED (Wk 5)
Proviron 50mg ED

Wks 5-8
Adding clen back in

Clen (25 days)
40 x 5 days
60 x 5 days
80 x 5 days
60 x 5 days
40 x 5 days

PCT
Nolvadex 20mg ED for 3 weeks


Liver supplements
Champion Nutrition Liver Cleanse
AST R-ALA
Evening Primrose Oil

 

[Desinho]

hey bros

any suggestions pls

 

[indofosho]

Hey. I just ran a Winstrol (winny) only cycle even though it was frowned upon. I had 20mg/caps x 100 caps. I did 20mg a day for the first week and 40mg a day till finish. I am 6'1-2", 250lbs and about 20%BF when started. When I finished the cycle I am 240lbs 16%BF. Everybody says i look huge and lost weight. My diet sucked ass and I didnt even work out that much or properly. I know....it was stupid to do it like that. But my gains were great even still.

 

[tapout77]

I wouldn't mess with T3 man, messing with your thyroid can be dangerous.

 

[Desinho]

tks bros for sharing, would reconsider the T3 as well

But in terms of dieting for a show, would you include Test P or would it result in too much water retention?

Is Proviron necessary to be stacked with the Test P as well or would Winstrol also be able to reduce the water retention?

 

[Shaptown]

I wouldn't mess with T3 man, messing with your thyroid can be dangerous.

most ambiguous statement i have heard all week. do you realize you are on an ANABOLIC STEROID forum buddy?

OP: shitty cycle.

1. no need to pyramid T3.

2. use clen in a 2 week on, 2 week off fashion.

3. Winstrol (winny) sucks. replace with anavar or dont use an oral at all.

 

[Teutonic]

No disrespect but...
At your age...test only...no oral at this time...
I bet you get some more responses if you post up some real stats..your throwing a lot of shit at your body first time out.
How you gonna know what drug you can and cant tolerate reasonably well..
As for indofosho saying he didnt diet right or train much..it s statements like that which fuel aas abuse and give us a bad image..Why the fuck would someone even admit that ? Here of all places ?
Water retention can be controlled by diet/aerobics..sodium intake.

 

[Desinho]

Ok thanks bros for yr valuable advice

I shall take out the stano and just do the test P for my 1st cycle.

What about the post cycle therapy (pct). Will Nolvadex be sufficient or should Clomid be added in as well?

 

[Shaptown]

up to you. PCT is very individual, just as the very nature of the cycle itself is.

some like clomid only, some like nolva only, some like clomid + nolva.

since you are not running a 19-nor prolactin is not an issue and you will be totally fine running 40mg nolva ED for 4 weeks.

 

[Desinho]

Ok thanks alot bro

In your opinion, would 6 weeks be long enough for a first cycle on Test P about 300mg per week?

 

[Shaptown]

Ok thanks alot bro

In your opinion, would 6 weeks be long enough for a first cycle on Test P about 300mg per week?

Will it work? Yes.

Is it a long enough cycle? It could work...

I would probably run Prop for 8 weeks personally at 350mg/weekly (100mg EOD).

Just realize you are trying to contest prep. Way more important than anabolic usage is proper cardio and proper diet to catalyze fatty acid catabolism (lipolysis) while simultaneously feeding your muscles enough protein to prevent them from breaking down whatsoever.

 

[Desinho]

ok will do bro

Right now I am considering between 2 brands for Test P

Body Research and LA Pharma
hey bro, do you know which brand is more recognized and better?