Test prop/ Clen/ Superdrol Cutting cycle

[blade1989]

Was planning on doing cut cycle

Week 1-6 Test Prop 300mg
Week 1-6 Clen 80 McG
Week 2-6 Superdrol 10/10/20/20 (anything else i should consideR?)
Week 1-6 adex 0.25mg eod

Wit 2 Weeks
PCT
Week 10-14 Clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolv 20/20/20/20

Currently on test e cycle..
Main goal is to cut maximum fat while retaining muscle.. and get ready for good low fat lean bulk on my 3rd cycle..

 

[fitguy22]

don't you think 6 weeks wouldn't be enough? do atleast 8.

 

[blade1989]

don't you think 6 weeks wouldn't be enough? do atleast 8.

anything else i need to chnge?

 

[halfwit]

anything else i need to chnge?

You can't run clen like that either. As this sounds like your second cycle, try to just add one new compound at a time. Superdrol is harsh stuff as-is, and if you jump on 80mcg of clen, you may find yourself in a bad place.

I'd pick one or the other this time around.

If you insist on all three, you'll need Ketotifen to keep your adrenergic receptors from down regulating. Or go 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I STRONGLY advise that you start with a small dose of clen and work your way up; 80mcg can pack a whallop, and if you're sensitive - could cause some nasty surprises. Something like 40/40/60/60/60/80/80, etc would be far easier on you.

My .02c

 

[blade1989]

You can't run clen like that either. As this sounds like your second cycle, try to just add one new compound at a time. Superdrol is harsh stuff as-is, and if you jump on 80mcg of clen, you may find yourself in a bad place.

I'd pick one or the other this time around.

If you insist on all three, you'll need Ketotifen to keep your adrenergic receptors from down regulating. Or go 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. I STRONGLY advise that you start with a small dose of clen and work your way up; 80mcg can pack a whallop, and if you're sensitive - could cause some nasty surprises. Something like 40/40/60/60/60/80/80, etc would be far easier on you.

My .02c

that is a good idea, i'll just do 2 on 2 off.. for 8 weeks.. and for superdrol, is it worth it on a cut..??? and if yes then is my dosage proper?? pct properly designed??

 

[halfwit]

that is a good idea, i'll just do 2 on 2 off.. for 8 weeks.. and for superdrol, is it worth it on a cut..??? and if yes then is my dosage proper?? pct properly designed??

Diet will dictate far more than the drugs to be honest. But yes, the SD doses look fine; just don't be afraid to drop back down if 20mg messes with your stomach too much.

Superdrol is a very strong DHT derivative that will pull some water from your tissues and harden you up a bit. It's easily my favorite oral, but it's benefits don't just apply to a cut. However, I've yet to see ANY AAS that magically dices you up when diet is lacking.

I'm rusty on PCT stuff as I'm a TRT guy. The FAQ has a pretty good outline though.

 

[Onk]

I'm more worried about test prop at 300mg a week? I cruise on 300mg a week. Even with an extra 70mg of sdrol on top, that barely seems like a cycle to me. Any reason why you're pinning so little prop?

 

[gdawg71]

That is a hefty clen dose to jump on . If I run it I do 2 weeks on 1 off repeat over 5 weeks . I have never done more than that and was at 50 mcg . At 50 I get the shakes . Like already stated diet will dictate everything . The clen works great but for me it was easy come easy go because my diet got slack after the 5 weeks.

 

[Macedog24]

Halfwit covered everything. Even the clen dosage. Never jump on clen at 80mcg to start. Especially if it is legit. Honestly , i had some on the money clen, and i had to start at 20mcg.
I do have a question. What are your stats. Superdrol, is an amazing compound. But you will have to watch your carb intake and diet. It is my favorite. Nutrition and diet is key to what type of gainz you will encounter. Sd i would run 10 mg a few days maybe even a week. But personally i think the first 2 weeks might disappoint you at 10mg. I would go 10mg /20/20/20 .
I m not suggesting 30 only because it will keep sides down and you seem to be keeping your cycle light as it is , except for sd.

Do you plan on using any on cycle support. Like liv 52. Or cycle assist .. something with tudca/udca. I would definitely consider it and also. Your gonna cramp up something fierce on clen. Id suggest running taurine 3- 5g ed. It will help big time.

As for pct you should be ok. But id start clomid at 100. And taper down .maybe 100/100/50/50 or 100/50/50/50. Nolva is fine.. i prefer. Toremifene.. it brings the boys back in 2-3days tops.. like coconuts..lol. but nolva is g2g.

 

[Macedog24]

Double post

 

[ELicit23]

I suggest clen to be used only when at a plateau. You need longer cycle

 

[Roush]

I suggest clen to be used only when at a plateau. You need longer cycle

agree ^^ .. see where diet gets you first. your already adding in superdrol on top of your test prop. you may not need clen (depends on your metabolism, I've never once cut with clen or any fat burner). don't just depend on the drugs

 

[blade1989]

Diet will dictate far more than the drugs to be honest. But yes, the SD doses look fine; just don't be afraid to drop back down if 20mg messes with your stomach too much.

Superdrol is a very strong DHT derivative that will pull some water from your tissues and harden you up a bit. It's easily my favorite oral, but it's benefits don't just apply to a cut. However, I've yet to see ANY AAS that magically dices you up when diet is lacking.

I'm rusty on PCT stuff as I'm a TRT guy. The FAQ has a pretty good outline though.

Yes, i agree diet is the key. That will be taken care of.. As I'm on cycle right now I've been eating good and clean.. So I'm kind of used to it now

 

[blade1989]

I'm more worried about test prop at 300mg a week? I cruise on 300mg a week. Even with an extra 70mg of sdrol on top, that barely seems like a cycle to me. Any reason why you're pinning so little prop?

I've spent some time on a few websites, and generally people use 300 MG a week.. 100 MG Monday, Wednesday, Friday.. And I guess if I'm pinning eod 300 seems to be good.. It's only my second cycle..

 

[blade1989]

Halfwit covered everything. Even the clen dosage. Never jump on clen at 80mcg to start. Especially if it is legit. Honestly , i had some on the money clen, and i had to start at 20mcg.
I do have a question. What are your stats. Superdrol, is an amazing compound. But you will have to watch your carb intake and diet. It is my favorite. Nutrition and diet is key to what type of gainz you will encounter. Sd i would run 10 mg a few days maybe even a week. But personally i think the first 2 weeks might disappoint you at 10mg. I would go 10mg /20/20/20 .
I m not suggesting 30 only because it will keep sides down and you seem to be keeping your cycle light as it is , except for sd.

Do you plan on using any on cycle support. Like liv 52. Or cycle assist .. something with tudca/udca. I would definitely consider it and also. Your gonna cramp up something fierce on clen. Id suggest running taurine 3- 5g ed. It will help big time.

As for pct you should be ok. But id start clomid at 100. And taper down .maybe 100/100/50/50 or 100/50/50/50. Nolva is fine.. i prefer. Toremifene.. it brings the boys back in 2-3days tops.. like coconuts..lol. but nolva is g2g.

I'm using everything by alpha pharma, I stay in India and alpha pharma company is just 20 minutes away.. So I'm sure my stack would be legit. For clen, yes I'm talking halfwit's suggestion.. Will be doing 2 on 2 off.. 40/40/60/60/80/80. Will up the dosage depending how I feel, I taken 80mcg before for 2-3 weeks, but my diet was crap.
My stats, I'm currently on cycle.. Have gained 10,lbs approximately, And yes I've gained fat too.. I'm 26, 177 lbs, 179 cms.. I'm planning to cut by carb cycling.. This being a cut cycle I'm not expecting gains.. Main toh goal is maintain muscle, and if I gain on this cycle even a little, it'll be a major win for me.
For superdrol dose I'll take 10/20/20/20.. Adjust accordingly.
I have liv 52 at hone and even taurine.. So that is already taken care of. Will add milk thistle if required.
I'm glad my pct looks good.. But I'm a little iffy on 100mg clomid. For my current 12 week cycle.. I'm using 50mg clomid.
And do I need adex?

 

[blade1989]

That is a hefty clen dose to jump on . If I run it I do 2 weeks on 1 off repeat over 5 weeks . I have never done more than that and was at 50 mcg . At 50 I get the shakes . Like already stated diet will dictate everything . The clen works great but for me it was easy come easy go because my diet got slack after the 5 weeks.

Yes I'll be doing 2 on 2 off.. Starting off with 40..

 

[blade1989]

Okay i checked with my source, superdrol is not availble.. alpha phrma superdrol.. im getting some global phrma product.. now the next good option is anavr, but its bloody expensive.. any other oral you guys would suggest?? or should i just do test / Clen??

 

[Onk]

I've spent some time on a few websites, and generally people use 300 MG a week.. 100 MG Monday, Wednesday, Friday.. And I guess if I'm pinning eod 300 seems to be good.. It's only my second cycle..

must be some bad websites then mate.

prop needs to be pinned ED or EoD. M/W/F doesn't fulfill that criteria. Generally, I find it's lazy people that say that. Also, for newbies to AAS their test levels (unless tested first) would be equiv to a dose of 200-250mg a week. Hence, replacing with 300mg a week is barely any increase, for lots of risks. We recommend people start at 500mg /wk here.

 

[blade1989]

must be some bad websites then mate.

prop needs to be pinned ED or EoD. M/W/F doesn't fulfill that criteria. Generally, I find it's lazy people that say that. Also, for newbies to AAS their test levels (unless tested first) would be equiv to a dose of 200-250mg a week. Hence, replacing with 300mg a week is barely any increase, for lots of risks. We recommend people start at 500mg /wk here.

Okay this is new.. i was using a lower dose because of the bloat test carries with it..again using 500 would bloat me.. if not then i'll use 500mg test p and clen for 8 weeks.. Something like

Week 1-8 Test P 500 mg (M/W/F) (200/200/100)
Week 1-8 Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100 (Depends on tolerance)
Week 3-8 Ketotifen 10-20mg
Week 3-8 dex 0.50mg EoD

Wait 2 weeks
PCT
Nolva 20/20/40/40
Clomid 50/50/50/50

 

[Macedog24]

Okay this is new.. i was using a lower dose because of the bloat test carries with it..again using 500 would bloat me.. if not then i'll use 500mg test p and clen for 8 weeks.. Something like

Week 1-8 Test P 500 mg (M/W/F) (200/200/100)
Week 1-8 Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100 (Depends on tolerance)
Week 3-8 Ketotifen 10-20mg
Week 3-8 dex 0.50mg EoD

Wait 2 weeks
PCT
Nolva 20/20/40/40
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Why not go 1.25 eod. Thats m,w,f,su. Next week . T,th,sa, and repeat. This is eod. Prop has a short half life. You dont wanna wait 3 days to pin. You wanna keep your levels as stable as possible. It will keep sides down also. And about the half life, why are you waiting two weeks to pct. That is for long esters. Like test e or test cyp. Not test p. Start your pct 4-5 days after last pin. And your nolva dose above. Is that backwards. You wanna taper down not up. Hope this helps.