test propionate cycle question

[lawnboy]

what is the recomemded dosage for a test prop. only cycle ? also what should post cycle therapy (pct) be and what should be done with the water retention.. any help is great thanks o yeah should any winstrol be added to cut u up at the end of the cycle thanks again

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Stats please..........age, weight, height, bf%, lifting experience, cycle history if any.

 

[lawnboy]

oopppsss

my friend is 22 5'9 165 been lifting for about 5 years..he want a little helper..i said to go with test enth or cyp. but this is all that is avail to him he states.. maybe 10-12 % he is cut up now but skinny

 

[lawnboy]

it is also his 1st cycle

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Prop @ 100 mg EOD for 6-8 weeks.

Save the Winstrol (winny) for another time.

If water retention/bloat becomes a problem, start with .5 mg Arimidex EOD.

Make sure you/your friend has Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno symptoms.

For post cycle therapy (pct), check out the two "Stickies" at the top of this page.

 

[elijah_123]

Id suggest doing 75mg ED if he doesn't mind the pokes every day. blood levels are much more constant and a little higher dosage. Same with the arimidex or 20mg of nolva if the bloat is to bad of a problem.

Also after the 8 weeks 40mg of Nolva ED for two weeks then 20mg ED for another two weeks to get the hpta back to normal.

 

[elijah_123]

And most of all, tell him to get the diet/training/rest in order. The cycle won't do much good if he doesn't train and eat to take advantage of it.

Higher volume and higher calories. I'd suggest HST, 5x5 or GVT.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Same with the arimidex or 20mg of nolva if the bloat is to bad of a problem.

bro..........Nolvadex will not do anything for water retention/bloat.

 

[lawnboy]

If water ret becomes a prob. How long do I take the arimidex ? I also c on the sticky that HCG is recomended 300-500 ius every 4-5 days ? And is this right for the clomid ?Basic Clomid PCT:

Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED

 

[StoneColdNTO]

If water ret becomes a prob. How long do I take the arimidex ? I also c on the sticky that HCG is recomended 300-500 ius every 4-5 days ? And is this right for the clomid ?Basic Clomid PCT:

Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED

If it becomes a problem, then you will have to take the arimidex for the rest of your cycle.

Yes, that is standard Clomid dosing.

 

[lawnboy]

should HCG be used at all ? board is great some great info and people on here

 

[1o1]

bro have him do 150mg/eod, i started my first cycle at 100mg/eod, and the gains were quite disappointing after one month, put on about ten pounds and for some reason i lost all sex drive after about a month at that dose too. so being on my first cycle and very anxious i upped the dose to 150mg/eod and i felt much better, and the gains came better as well.

 

[joltan]

100/mg should be ok for his first cycle imo

 

[kube]

if youre gonna use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), try it during the cycle from the very start. 200ius every 4 or 5 days. this is what im going to do next time. you can also use it towards the end to reverse atrophy but i figure its better to prevent than to reverse ball shrinkage.

 

[lawnboy]

is hcg recomended with this cycle ?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

is hcg recomended with this cycle ?

With prop @ 100 mg EOD.....probably not necessary.