test propionate only. maybe?

[David12]

hey whats up guys?
i posted on here forever ago about a alpha one cycle but anyways here's my stats.
Experience: alpha one and h-drol and have been training for years.
Stats: 22 5'9" 205lbs 14-15%BF

i am looking to drop a good amount of bodyfat (as much as possible) and also to add on 10-15lbs of lean muscle.

Here's what i have planned.
test propionate 1-10 @ 500-525mg a week.
Arimadex 1-10 @ .5mg every other day
Nolvadex 10-13 20/20/10/10

Support supps:
saw palmetto
milk thistle
co-q10
kidney aid
multivitamin
red yeast rice extract
celery seed extract

How does that look? any more support supps needed for balding, gyno, testes, lactation, etc? any input or suggestions at all?

Also, would there be another mild compound that you would recommend adding in or would i get the results i am looking for from this?

thanks alot,
David

 

[park]

Add 50mg of clomid ed in your Pct..

 

[park]

Test prop needs to be pinned eod...why not run Test c or E @ 500-600mg?

 

[David12]

idk if i will be able to get my hands on clomid or not. how necessary is it?
and i was planning on running the prop instead of c or e because i heard that
prop is much leaner and c and e cause alot of water weight and bloating.

 

[park]

The only difference between C,E and Prop are the esters. Prop being the shortest. Test C and E all you have to pin is twice a week. Alot of people here say test is test. Yes you need clomid. Rui products is a sponsered research chemical site on these boards or go to Manpowernurtion. They have clomid, nolva, aromasin, etc, all for your research monkey and lab rats. Good luck!

 

[KaiserSose]

Fat loss, bloat etc is based on diet not ester

 

[David12]

thanks for the info so far guys.
okay, looks like i'll be going with the test cyp after further research.
Here's my plan. I got a few questions but let me know how this sounds:

test cypionate 1-10 500mg/week (250mg tuesday and 250mg friday)
Arimadex 1-10 .5 mg/EOD
PCT:
Nolvadex 13-15 40/20/20/20
Clomid 13-15 50/50/50/50

Also, will the cypionate help lean me out a little bit?
I was considering clen or winstrol also but i'm not sure if i should
stray away from a test only cycle since this is my first cycle.

 

[park]

Everything looks good. I personaly run clomid and nolva for 4 weeks. Your Armidex should combat the bloat, so you should be looking at clean gains. Eat clean and low soduim you should be fine.

 

[coltmc45]

Run the adex all the way through post cycle therapy (pct) and taper to .25 the last 2 weeks to prevent estro rebound. (Running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during post cycle therapy (pct) will stimulate natty t production) Keep it simple with your first cycle. Test only but don't be afraid to extend it a few weeks if you're still seeing gains. Eat clean and alot and you be good.

 

[UserAt204]

Your diet will lean you out not AAS. You can cut or bulk on any AAS. Some work better then others but the point is it's based on your diet/training. Test it's self won't nessecarily cause you to get lean but you need to adjust your diet to fit your goals.

 

[David12]

hey guys, sorry it took me a few days to reply. I was out of town.
But anyways, i got a few new updates and questions for you guys.
Let me know how this looks please.

test cypionate 1-10 500mg/week (250mg tuesday and 250mg friday)
Aromasin 1-10 12mg/EOD
Clen 11-13 and 16-17 ?/?/-/-/?/?
PCT:
Nolvadex 13-15 40/20/20/20
clomid 13-15 50/50/50/50

How does that look? and could you please help with my clen dosing?
I have read 2 weeks on 2 weeks off but i'd like to see what you guys thought
about it and at what dosages.
Also, I might also be adding in some finasteride for hair loss, if necessary?
My father has a pretty big widows peak, not bald in back though, but
i am definitely not wanting to lose any hair while on cycle.

Thanks alot, David

 

[balboa270]

why you want clen

 

[balboa270]

just hit he test bro see whats up.

 

[David12]

well i was reading that it would help lean me out and
keep cortisol levels down while i was in pct.
Was considering running the test only but kind of wanted to throw
a little something else into the mix.