test+tren cycle. Good, bad, maybe?

[spyder1]

Hey all. Its been a while since I've been on the forum. I've been TDY for a few months. Anyways, Im gettin back into everything again. My memory is slightly rusty now. I want to run at test/tren cycle to get myself back into the game. Im going to do a strength/lean bulk with it. Here is what I was thinking.

wks 1-10 Test enanthate 500mg wk
wks 1-8 Tren Ace (home brew) 100mg ed
wks 1-10 nolva on hand 20

My post cycle therapy (pct) is good, no Q's there. I don't know if i should run the tren wks 1-8 or 2-10, or not even that long. 8 wks is kind of long for tren. Experienced feedback would be very helpful. Thx.

 

[Deep South Chris]

others have ran much higher tren for longer, but if its first time, keep it short and sweet to see how you respond to it. also everyone is going to say if its been a while do a test only. but your going to do what you want anyway so goodluck

also ditch the nolva if your running tren, it causes progesterone related gyno if your prone. nolva does nothing but aggrivate it, so use bromo or caber...see below for a quote from another thread on gyno by macro

#1 DO NOT USE NOLVA (tamoxifen)

#2 use an AI

#3 post cycle issues are common with trenbolone and nandrolone, as well as other progestins. Nolva has a tendency to aggravate rather than help (PgR upregulation)

#4 the addition of a dopaminergic is also reccomended. bromo or caber

#5 nolva is one of the most common factor in post cycle gyno when progestins have been used.

 

[Thoms]

I would keep the tren concentration lower than the test, the nolva issue has already been discussed, but besides that, everything looks good.

 

[outlawtas]

Sounds like you've run tren before to me, so I'm sure you know how you respond to it. If your fine with that test/tren ratio then it's no problem, others might have an issue.

Run it 1-8, then drop it and let just run test imo.

No nolva!

 

[spyder1]

thx a lot guys. Yes, I've run tren twice befor this. I ran it at 100mg ed, so im fine with it. Huge strength gains! Anyways im gunna run it 1-8 and drop it. Thanks for the nolva tip. Damn, i had no idea. what should i go with if i have estrogen conversion probs?

 

[outlawtas]

prolactin, not estro would be the problem from tren. Because you are running test and tren together, either one (or both) could cause gyno. You really have to judge from experience whether you think your gyno is from Test or Tren. Gyno from Test can be treated with Nolva. Gyno from Tren should be treated with Caber or Bromo.

 

[PoiPounda]

others have ran much higher tren for longer, but if its first time, keep it short and sweet to see how you respond to it. also everyone is going to say if its been a while do a test only. but your going to do what you want anyway so goodluck

also ditch the nolva if your running tren, it causes progesterone related gyno if your prone. nolva does nothing but aggrivate it, so use bromo or caber...see below for a quote from another thread on gyno by macro

what about raloxifene while on cycle with test/tren/eq??

 

[Thoms]

Looks like a typo, he probably means:

gyno from TEST can be treated with nolva. gyno from Tren should be treated with Caber or Bromo.

 

[Deep South Chris]

letro is supposed to work good too, im trying it now to reverse some minimal signs of gyno. tren made them more apparent.

 

[DirtyBird]

Wound running Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) cause problems if Tren was used in the cycle? If you cut the tren 2 weeks before the test, can you still run nolva as post cycle therapy (pct) wihtout any prolactin problems

 

[outlawtas]

Looks like a typo, he probably means:

fixed. thanks.

 

[jarbulldog]

test tren cycles rock but i prefer test e tren e and deca. that is my favorite cycles

 

[spyder1]

i have a hard time getting legit deca, so that is kinda out of the question unfortunately. There's so many deca fakes floating around now. Id love to try it sometime though.

 

[ManOfMuscle]

Best not to run tren and deca at the same time.

 

[The Iron Bull]

Why not just run Letrozole with it and be done with both issues?