Testim Question

[ronnie2010]

A friend of mine has access to a bunch of boxes of Testim that is from another friend. He isn't on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but asked me what I thought about him doing a cycle with it. He wants to take 3-4 tubes a day for 12 weeks.
He has never done a cycle before which is why he asked me. He is 28 years old and works out quite a bit and takes it fairly serious as far as I can tell. I don't really know the rest of his stats but I would guess he is around 190 lbs and stands at 5'9 with relatively low body fat.

I told him that he would probaly have to take more like 5-6 tubes a day for it to be more like a cycle...but after some reading I am not really sure about that. I did however suggest that he don't do it because without bloodwork while on it he really wouldn't have any idea what his levels were at.

Since this stuff is gel I would assume the absorbtion rate would vary some person to person....but I could be wrong. I told him to just do a normal cycle if he really wanted to do one. Like 500mg wk of Test. But his arguement was that he was getting the Testim very cheap "almost free" and this way he wouldn't have to pin. ( I told him he was a pussy for even saying that)

I did tell him I would ask around and see what else I could find...if anything. So what are you guys thought on this?

 

[MoparMuscle]

Retarded idea

Oh and wrong forum for a question about a cycle.

 

[ronnie2010]

Yea I wasn't sure what section to put it in. I knew this was a cycle kind of question but I thouht maybe the guys in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) would know more about the testim and the absorbtion rate etc etc....

I agree it isn't a good idea which is why I told him to just do a regular cycle. Anyone else have any thought about this besides "Retarded idea" Maybe some reasoning behind it. If it is that bad of an idea I just want to be able to talk him out of it and if I just say its a retared idea without backing anything up then I know him and he will go ahead and try it.

 

[TR2838]

Why would anyone ever rub hormones on their skin, shut down their body's own natural T production and hope that enough gets absorbed to even make up for the amount that you just stopped your body from producing? Also, let him see how many people are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life because they messed up their HPTA from doing cycles..

 

[MoparMuscle]

Super retarded idea, someone should shot "your friend".

 

[ronnie2010]

Super retarded idea, someone should shot "your friend".

I think you mean shoot and haha. I do wish I could smack him right up side the head at times. I just was hoping to get some actual info so I could talk him out of this idea. I don't know jack shit about this testim gel stuff other than what I read about it on the website. Thanks for your super words of wisdom Mopar I can see that your a real assest to Steroidology. Well since I can't seem to get any I am just going to tell him that its a retarted idea and a super retarded idea. I hope he listens to those words of wisdom.

 

[MoparMuscle]

Post it in the correct forum and maybe you'll get a better answer. Although I'm sure you'll get some of the same.

I know some about it but won't post cycle advice.

 

[ronnie2010]

You are probaly right I think I might have him convinced not to do it anyway. I keep telling him how bad of an idea it is. Mostly because of the unknown absorbtion rate that must vary from person to person. Its the only arguement I feel I have at the moment but for now he says he isn't going to do it. Well maybe I will post it in another forum and see what others say just for the hell of it and strengthen my arugement for him not to try it.

 

[cjw2021]

This is probably the most creative attempt to have a "cycle talk" in the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forum I've seen. But you still can't talk about this here. The problem with T gel in general is that aromatase enzyme is highly concentrated on the skin and converts most the gel/cream to estrogen. Then it probably raises SHBG and eventually becomes completely ineffective, as you can see reading the multitudinous threads on the internet of people on gel for 2 months then having T levels of 200 despite applying more gel. It simply does not work. For every person that says gel works there are about 30 on the net saying it doesn't. And science says that it cannot work over any period of time. So a person wanting to use gel would be better off just drinking horse urine for its estrogen content.

 

[ronnie2010]

Now this is an arguement I could use. Also I don't know how to delete this thread now. I realize it is in the wrong section and I would like to delete it or stop all comments at least.