Testosterone Cypionate

[pound4pound]

Hello guys, I am new to this site. I posted a post in the member diary sections, but just now saw that I am supposed to keep questions out of it. So here we go. I was prescribed test cypionate at 400mg a week for the 1at month and then 400mg once a month from then on. I am 21 and my total test was 310. I have been lifting for years, I eat 150g of protein and 3200 calories. But, anyway all of that stuff is in my diary. I was wondering what I could expect with this dosage and if I need to get him to adjust it in the later months. I am very little at only 135 and I think he is giving me a lot of juice, but he is the doc.

 

[boyindasouth]

Whatsup man, I think you will do fine with that, even if you doubled it , it wouldnt be a problem. Good luck!

 

[pound4pound]

What kind of weight gains and strength gains could I expect in a year. I take it you read my post in the diary to get the full details and stats.

 

[ManOfMuscle]

As I said in the original post once a week injections would be much better. Maybe something in the 150 range? If it were me I would want as much test as possible as long as it doesn't pose health problems (which it shouldn't). There are a handful of members here on hrt and they will be a lot more knowledgeable.

 

[pound4pound]

Well, I will try to talk him into changing it from 400mg once a month to 100mg once a week or maybe 200 every other week. He said that I could probably have it every 3 weeks though.

 

[jarbulldog]

400 once a month would suck, i would ask to do 100 ew if he will only give you 400 a month because the half life, and once a week will kepp your test levels stable, if insists on once a month, metion to hiom that won't that make you test levels like a roller coaster compared to if you took it weekly?

 

[GymLift]

Hello guys, I am new to this site. I posted a post in the member diary sections, but just now saw that I am supposed to keep questions out of it. So here we go. I was prescribed test cypionate at 400mg a week for the 1at month and then 400mg once a month from then on. I am 21 and my total test was 310. I have been lifting for years, I eat 150g of protein and 3200 calories. But, anyway all of that stuff is in my diary. I was wondering what I could expect with this dosage and if I need to get him to adjust it in the later months. I am very little at only 135 and I think he is giving me a lot of juice, but he is the doc.

You need a new physician. Testosterone cypionate should be injected WEEKLY. And as for injecting 400mg/week for a month; that's a steroid cycle.

Check out this forum:

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9

The above forum is going downhill, but there is lot of good information in there. Make sure to read this:

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?p=210157

 

[pound4pound]

Yeah, I kind of thought that was a little too much for each week. That is way up there for someone my size. But, I ain't complaining. I am going to try to get him to give it to me every 2 weeks at 200mg after my first month. I think the old doc wants me to be incredible hulk or something. I asked for hrt not steroid cycle. But, whatever at least it is legal. Do you think that 200mg every other week after the first month would be ok. I know cyp lasts around 15-20 days. So, I would be getting it every 14 days. I think that every 3 weeks would not be terrible. I would probably drop test levels bad for 5 days, but then it would come back.

 

[Rokomuscle1]

Yeah, I kind of thought that was a little too much for each week. That is way up there for someone my size. But, I ain't complaining. I am going to try to get him to give it to me every 2 weeks at 200mg after my first month. I think the old doc wants me to be incredible hulk or something. I asked for hrt not steroid cycle. But, whatever at least it is legal. Do you think that 200mg every other week after the first month would be ok. I know cyp lasts around 15-20 days. So, I would be getting it every 14 days. I think that every 3 weeks would not be terrible. I would probably drop test levels bad for 5 days, but then it would come back.

Ideally...100mg EW would work for most people.. in general... 400mg a month is old school thinking..200mg EOW does work for some people...its not so much of a peak as 400mg and not such a big crash...I actually do that for a few months just to cut down on injects...but I do feel best on 100mg a week..now you are a lot smaller than I am so you may eventually find that a smaller dose is actually better...only way to tell is by blood tests and by how you fell...keep us informed..

 

[GymLift]

The effective half life of testosterone cypionate is less than a week. Dosing needs to be done weekly. And if the physician is old-school and wants you to come into the office for injections, tell him you want to do the injections yourself at home.

Lots of good information in that forum I linked to.

 

[pound4pound]

My question is that, I am going to be on hrt for the rest of my life. So, would it be okay to be taking injections each and every week. I think that would eventually killl me or something. But, I don't really know too much about this stuff.

 

[outlawtas]

Honestly, after a few injections, you get used to it. It's really nothing, I do almost 4 a week now with my gear and HCG. I get a little bit of pain sometimes, but i'm injecting 1ml@300mg/ml. 100mg 1x a week wouldn't really be that much.

Doing 1 injection every week is going to be the best for your test levels. It's going to keep you much more stable than 1x a month.

Oh, and you probably need to up your calories a little bit. At your weight, you'll be able to gain the first 50lbs fairly easily, at least that's what I found when I was around there, but after about 180-190 it gets a little harder to keep the fat off.

 

[GymLift]

My question is that, I am going to be on hrt for the rest of my life. So, would it be okay to be taking injections each and every week. I think that would eventually killl me or something. But, I don't really know too much about this stuff.

Another option is Androgel or Testim. It is a gel that you apply to your skin each morning.

 

[pound4pound]

You brought up a good point. I have a friend that has done a couple cycles and he says that at 400mg a week for the first month and 400 every 3 weeks after that, I should gain around 50 pounds within 4 months. Is he correct. He also said my max bench should go from 185 to 250 within a year. Is this also correct. Of course, he meant if I continued to eat right and kept up my workout. But, is this possible. I work in a level 6 super maximum security prison and I need to get as big and as strong as possible.

 

[GymLift]

You brought up a good point. I have a friend that has done a couple cycles and he says that at 400mg a week for the first month and 400 every 3 weeks after that, I should gain around 50 pounds within 4 months. Is he correct.

Very unlikely. IF you stayed on 400mg/week for 12 weeks then you might gain perhaps 30 pounds, but for only 1 month it is different. Your focus here should be appropriate and healthy testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), not an Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycle.

He also said my max bench should go from 185 to 250 within a year. Is this also correct.

I think that with proper diet and training you can easily get a 250lb bench without an Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cycle.

Of course, he meant if I continued to eat right and kept up my workout. But, is this possible. I work in a level 6 super maximum security prison and I need to get as big and as strong as possible.

 

[pound4pound]

I have proper training and a diet. I only weigh 135 pounds on a heavy day. That would be the same as a 195-200 pound guy benching 400 pounds. It happens, but it is pretty hard without a little help from something. My state record for my weightclass is only 190 pounds. But, it is possible that I could get to 250, but I have been at 185 for about a year. I changed up my routine to a strength routine and it still did not go up. The only way I could get 250 is with roids, or up the diet and gain some weight. Also, if I get 400mg every 3 weeks, will I maintain my strength or possibly keep making gains. That will be 400mg more than what I have now.

 

[GymLift]

I have proper training and a diet. I only weigh 135 pounds on a heavy day.

Lets get you on appropriate testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and see what happens over the course of 12 months. If you are severely hypogonadal, then that can certainly be cause of inability to gain significant muscle mass.

However, I don't understand how you can insist that you have proper training and diet. Have you received training from a vet? These guys are many times stronger than yourself, and they are constantly looking for more optimal ways to train.

 

[pound4pound]

I have been lifting since I was 12 or 13 years old. My old man is 5-7 175 with 17 inch biceps. He benches 365. I got my latest routine off of him. It is a upper and lower. Mon-up Tue-low Wed-rest Thur-up Fri-low Sat-rest Sun-rest. I have tried a 5-day split, 4 day split, single body workouts, chest and tris, back and bis, shoulders and legs. I have tried it all. You would just have to see a pic of me to understand how this low test affected me. I have hardly any muscle at all. I was down to 114 pounds and still could not see any muscle. The diet could use a little adjustment, but it has been pretty solid for the past year. 150 grams of protein, 550-650 grams of carbs, and 40-60 grams of fat. I supplement with 40 grams of whey post workout. I eat 5 meals a day. I have talked to physical therapist as USC-Carolina. He said everything looked good and couldn't understand the lack of gains. This was before i knew about the low test. Anyway, as you can see I have a good knowledge of routines and diet. I do reps between 4-8. On almost all lifts. I have good genetics. So, I don't know what else could be holding me back but the low test.

 

[GymLift]

I have been lifting since I was 12 or 13 years old. My old man is 5-7 175 with 17 inch biceps. He benches 365. I got my latest routine off of him. It is a upper and lower. Mon-up Tue-low Wed-rest Thur-up Fri-low Sat-rest Sun-rest. I have tried a 5-day split, 4 day split, single body workouts, chest and tris, back and bis, shoulders and legs. I have tried it all. You would just have to see a pic of me to understand how this low test affected me. I have hardly any muscle at all. I was down to 114 pounds and still could not see any muscle. The diet could use a little adjustment, but it has been pretty solid for the past year. 150 grams of protein, 550-650 grams of carbs, and 40-60 grams of fat. I supplement with 40 grams of whey post workout. I eat 5 meals a day. I have talked to physical therapist as USC-Carolina. He said everything looked good and couldn't understand the lack of gains. This was before i knew about the low test. Anyway, as you can see I have a good knowledge of routines and diet. I do reps between 4-8. On almost all lifts. I have good genetics. So, I don't know what else could be holding me back but the low test.

Good then. Let's get you on appropriate testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and the mass will appear.

I was diagnosed hypogonadal. I was 145 lbs. testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and proper diet added about 40 or so pounds to me.

That forum I linked to is going to shit, but there is a shitload of good information in the archives.

 

[pound4pound]

Are you still on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). If so, what is your dosage like. Also, I have a question. I have noticed that my stool is darker than before I was on this stuff. It is really dark brown. What does this mean.