The proper way to contact a Brand when ordering/inquiring

[Zeek]

I keep hearing the same thing over and over guys, Safe-mail was forwarded to admin or hiushmail was forwarded to admin.

Guys certain key words in titles are flagged and when they show up in email titles the admins of these mail servers are notified and sent a copy of the emails.

The words List, Order, steroids, AAS, hgh should never Be used in the subject line

Also how safe are these " secure" email servers? We only have to ask hushmail and go back to the year 2007 and the big wave of busts!

When asked to cooperate they simply opened their books and said read up fellas!

When some sources just email lists and you write List, huge flag guys and they are aware of this. The way Order would be the 2nd biggest thing to be flagged


Just be careful and use your heads!

 

[dy595959]

That makes a lot of sense!

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

I keep hearing the same thing over and over guys, Safe-mail was forwarded to admin or hiushmail was forwarded to admin.

Guys certain key words in titles are flagged and when they show up in email titles the admins of these mail servers are notified and sent a copy of the emails.

The words List, Order, steroids, AAS, hgh should never Be used in the subject line

Also how safe are these " secure" email servers? We only have to ask hushmail and go back to the year 2007 and the big wave of busts!

When asked to cooperate they simply opened their books and said read up fellas!

When some sources just email lists and you write List, huge flag guys and they are aware of this. The way Order would be the 2nd biggest thing to be flagged


Just be careful and use your heads!

What about deleting emails do you know 100% if a backup is kept or when something is deleted it is deleted and they cannot go back a get it.

Now I do know how files systems work and something will have to be written over in its place to truly be deleted.

Specifically I am talking about Safe-Mail.

 

[FormerFatty]

deleting them is a good practice but of course it does not guarantee anything.

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Because everything is sent out and no one but the owners have control of this, cause the sent mail needs to be saved for them to read it. I don't know but I bet it better than using windows live.

Now Counter Mail looks pretty awesome may upgrade from Safe-Mail.

 

[Zeek]

Think of a herd pof zebra out on the plains of africa, while lions do get some of them there truly is safety in numbers

as for emails a mail server that handles 10+ millionemails daily will be safer than a safe-mail that may handle 2500

they will all cooperate if asked so safety is an illusion and nothing more

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Think of a herd pof zebra out on the plains of africa, while lions do get some of them there truly is safety in numbers

as for emails a mail server that handles 10+ millionemails daily will be safer than a safe-mail that may handle 2500

they will all cooperate if asked so safety is an illusion and nothing more

So what your suggesting is do not use any "Safe" email based service? Great analogy.

 

[StoliFTW]

sh*t. I used order #xxx in my subject line.. how f*ing stupid of me... f*ckkkk

 

[Harnold]

What about deleting emails do you know 100% if a backup is kept or when something is deleted it is deleted and they cannot go back a get it.

Now I do know how files systems work and something will have to be written over in its place to truly be deleted.

Specifically I am talking about Safe-Mail.

man, as an ex cop I can tell you they can retrieve fucking near anything, deleted or not. In this day of child porn and shit, they have experts who can read encrypted messages, anything. I worked with a guy who was like Bill fucking Gates on the computer, fucking horrible cop, but that's not why they had him there, he was a comp wiz. heed Zeek's advice boys.

 

[justin h]

So in other words....don't put anything in the subject line correct? Or say something like "hey old time friend" Then state what you need in the message area right?

 

[Hawks58]

So it'd be better not to use something like safe-mail (that isn't really safe) and something more along the lines of a more popular emailing service? Wouldn't the more popular services/servers have better software to track/flag messages (or so I would think.)

 

[blazer69]

good point. Something to look out for

 

[Harnold]

secure email

sorry boys but like I said, as an ex cop I can tell you there is no such thing as secure email. in fact, it is right up there as one of the least safest forms of communications. fucking pigs eh........lol

 

[anewguy]

Think of a herd pof zebra out on the plains of africa, while lions do get some of them there truly is safety in numbers

as for emails a mail server that handles 10+ millionemails daily will be safer than a safe-mail that may handle 2500

they will all cooperate if asked so safety is an illusion and nothing more

Word. Hotmail all day long. Just don't be stupid about it

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Well you cannot control the subject line because the other person may change the subject line by mistake and now you have received mail with that subject.

 

[Khan 1]

So Zeek, if you were in my place, which e mail service would you use?

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

man, as an ex cop I can tell you they can retrieve fucking near anything, deleted or not. In this day of child porn and shit, they have experts who can read encrypted messages, anything. I worked with a guy who was like Bill fucking Gates on the computer, fucking horrible cop, but that's not why they had him there, he was a comp wiz. heed Zeek's advice boys.

I can wipe a dive bother and there will be no way to retrieve the data back, within windows when you delete a file you are deleting the reference link that the OS used to find the file unless that section of Data is re-written that files still exists. This requires many passes and only DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke) can get it to the point where nothing can be lifted using Gutmann Algorithm 35 passes.

Only downside take's time, so if they bust down the door your fucked. Also its best to stay on old outdated hardware, because current hardware my implement features and logging techniques that are not even stored on the disk platers or Nand flash cell's and somewhere else on the drive.

 

[ImNotJacked]

I can wipe a dive bother and there will be no way to retrieve the data back, within windows when you delete a file you are deleting the reference link that the OS used to find the file unless that section of Data is re-written that files still exists. This requires many passes and only DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke) can get it to the point where nothing can be lifted.

Only downside take's time, so if they bust down the door your fucked. Also its best to stay on old outdated hardware, because current hardware my implement features and logging techniques that are not even stored on the disk platers or Nand flash cell's and somewhere else on the drive.

Hellsman, Technically they found it takes 7 runs of DBAN (derriks boot and nuke ) to not be recovered by feds.. Just FYI..

Personally, If i was communicating with someone and didnt want remnants on my hard drive, I would do it via a Linux Live CD.. No hard drive needed, everything written to memory and when machine reboots (POOF) gone. Of course always the chance the email servers are being logged, unless you are using a server maybe in country the feds cant get access too.


Prolly said too many keywords now, big bro be here soon.

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Hellsman, Technically they found it takes 7 runs of DBAN (derriks boot and nuke ) to not be recovered by feds.. Just FYI..

Personally, If i was communicating with someone and didnt want remnants on my hard drive, I would do it via a Linux Live CD.. No hard drive needed, everything written to memory and when machine reboots (POOF) gone. Of course always the chance the email servers are being logged, unless you are using a server maybe in country the feds cant get access too.


Prolly said too many keywords now, big bro be here soon.

Yes, linix distro on memory is the best route I completely agree.

 

[kingsfandave]

good reminder zeek, always on your game