This is me after my first cycle

MattyIce said:
Dude.. tamox has NOTHING to due with preventing aromatization.. please STFU now.
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Tamoxifen will lower the effect of Estrogen because it have ability to bind Receptor so Estrogen will still be in the body and he will not suffer from side effects related to too low estrogen.
Since he will do a mild cycle , he doesnt need Aromatase inhibitor (AI), that will only suppress his gains and lower his sex drive and energy. Besides it will fuck up cholesterol levels.
On the other hand, you SHUT THE FUCK UP and if you wish to talk, try to say something useful which somebody can actually have a benefit from.
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
Tamoxifen will lower the effect of Estrogen because it have ability to bind Receptor so Estrogen will still be in the body and he will not suffer from side effects related to too low estrogen.
Since he will do a mild cycle , he doesnt need Aromatase inhibitor (AI), that will only suppress his gains and lower his sex drive and energy. Besides it will fuck up cholesterol levels.
On the other hand, you SHUT THE FUCK UP and if you wish to talk, try to say something useful which somebody can actually have a benefit from.
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How does an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) suppress gains? I actually had more libido and energy when I upped my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose.
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
His workout is his gym teachers responsibility and nutrition is something which he needs to consult to some expert like 3 j
His blood test is also need to seen my doctor , but with 1 cycle with Oxandrolone i am sure his liver is just fine.
In his picture he seems old enough to start , and anyway he started.
Oral s are 10 weeks but there is 2 weeks break in the middle plus second oral is Oxandrolone which is very very easy on liver with a low dosage
So all will be fine
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Dude where are you getting or imformation from? That is very BAD ADVICE. You shouldnt be trying to give people advice like that. 10 week orals? are you freaking crazy? His liver would be in very bad shape!
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
If you think its too much skip Oral turinabol and just go with Oxandrolone,
Since you will wish to cut, tamoxifen will be nice addition because you will wish to keep aromatization low for preventing fat and water retention.
Next to this if you can find Proviron can be also nice like :
Tamoxifen 20 mg pr day
Proviron 50 mg per day
This is also keep our free test higher by lowering SHBG
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where in the hell do you get that tamox prevents aromatization. Where the hell do you get your information at??? Wow. You dont know crap about AAS! just like Matty said STFU!
 
I appreciate all Feed back guys .so I'm not going to take sides I won't just jump into doing some thing 1 Pearson suggest I will take everyone's options and make a decision thanks guys .
 
Great job. You obviously got ur work out n diet right. I.m.o u dont need to wast all that money on a list of expensive,painful, and dangerous chemicals. Keep up what ur doing, may b look into a tren e test e mix. Pin once a week instead of 6. With little worrie of est. sides.
 
BIG DADDY 73 said:
Great job. You obviously got ur work out n diet right. I.m.o u dont need to wast all that money on a list of expensive,painful, and dangerous chemicals. Keep up what ur doing, may b look into a tren e test e mix. Pin once a week instead of 6. With little worrie of est. sides.
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Wtf are you talking about?
 
I can't tell if this thread is full of trolls trying to be funny, full of assholes trying to get someone hurt, or full of retards who have no idea what they're talking about.

However I do know that I've gotten dumber reading it...
 
Matt0071 said:
running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is your personal preference, easy as that!
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you must prefer to be an overweight person with titties and no bicep. lmao

op, guaranteed you will need some Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at some point during cycle, which Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you use and how often you use is a "personal preference"
 
Patch23 said:
Mattyice . I want to run a lean bulk cycle do u have any suggestions brother !
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what are your stats... age weight, height, cycle history, PCT... what is your diet, what training schedule... there is science to this bro, not a shot in the dark if you want results.
 
Ok well I'm 26 . Been lifting for 5 years . I train 4 times a week
My routine is day1 shoulders /triceps and abs . Day 2 chest and biceps . Day 3 legs . Day 4 back
I know a lot about lifting at what exercises to do to get the best results for my self . I won't boar you about diet all I will say is its . High protien . Carbs . And healthy fats

I have only ever done 1 cycle that look like this :

12 weeks test e 600mg
Last 6 weeks 80mg anavar ed
Arimedex 0.50 eod
Hcg 500ius split into 2 shots

Pct clomid 100/75/50/50 and aromasin 20/20/10/10
 
Patch23 said:
Ok well I'm 26 . Been lifting for 5 years . I train 4 times a week
My routine is day1 shoulders /triceps and abs . Day 2 chest and biceps . Day 3 legs . Day 4 back
I know a lot about lifting at what exercises to do to get the best results for my self . I won't boar you about diet all I will say is its . High protien . Carbs . And healthy fats

I have only ever done 1 cycle that look like this :

12 weeks test e 600mg
Last 6 weeks 80mg anavar ed
Arimedex 0.50 eod
Hcg 500ius split into 2 shots

Pct clomid 100/75/50/50 and aromasin 20/20/10/10
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weight/height/bf% what are specific goals?
 
you look +10% bf to me... ultimately you gonna determine cycle gain/loss with diet and training...
14 weeks
test e 600mg
tren e 400mg
deca 200mg

week 11-16
winstrol @ 100mg ed

take glucosmine ed thru leading up to adding winstrol

diet must be clean.. clean carbs and protein postworkout
throw in resistance training MMA or boxing workout 3x a week for 25-45 min's

PCT
6 weeks
torem 60-100mg ed
aromasin 12.5mg eod or e3 days

On cycle support
adex as needed .25mg
caber .25-.50mg e4 days
 
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