Training to failure

[jtvision]

I've seen some programs like the WSB who do no train till failure.
I've always been a solid believer in lifting the weight till your muscles can't more it any longer, then have your partner assist for an additional few reps. At which point the muscle is destroyed.

Anyone interested in chatting about their philosophy?

 

[Rougen123]

Muscle is done when you reach failure. To much training to failure can lead to over training/bad CNS recovery which = less gains, more soreness, less bang for your buck. But I take that all back for some of the exceptions out there it works great for, Arnie being one of them.

 

[djm6464]

only on my last set of anything, and even then i may stop at 10, but i make sure the last set is difficult.............agreed that arnie, n more recently ronnie always train to failure, however jay never does and is a firm believer in not over training.......listen to your body really and go how you feel on a given day

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I dont really have my partner assist in a few more reps, just on the last one, I go til i cant put it up on my own, then spotter helps put it back. if i was gonna have a spotter do that, i would opt for a drop set instead. If you do them too much you will either hit a wall and not respond to it, or overtrain like previously mentioned. IMO

i would only do 5-8 reps for size and strength, 10-12 and i burn too many cals.

 

[ezred]

I dont really have my partner assist in a few more reps, just on the last one, I go til i cant put it up on my own, then spotter helps put it back. if i was gonna have a spotter do that, i would opt for a drop set instead. If you do them too much you will either hit a wall and not respond to it, or overtrain like previously mentioned. IMO

i would only do 5-8 reps for size and strength, 10-12 and i burn too many cals.

that last part is a good one for newbies to understand. not everyone has this problem (i put on weight quickly so i can handle the extra burn) but many do and a lot of "hardgainers" will jump into the gym and think they have to do 20 sets of 50 reps to put on size and they try to eat extra but are burning way more calories than they should be training for hours.

sometimes working out LESS can bring you more overall gain, counter-intuitive as it may sound. and i think especially with aas it's something for newbies to consider, the added work you'll be able to do needs to be offset double-time by the calories you take in.

what you do in the gym will prepare you for muscle growth (tearing it down), but it's everything that goes on OUTSIDE of the gym that actually produces or fails to produce gains (building back up.)