Tren Ace & Test Prop Cycle

[adie1981]

Hi lads,

Two questions and itd be appreciated with any advise etc

1.
Im almost finished on my initial Dbol (50mg per day) and bulking up (food & mutant mass) cycle, ive been eating alot of good fuels aswell as a daily mutant mass shake which is 1000 calories a day and ive gone from 12 stone 10 to 13 stone 8 in the last 3/4 weeks.

My question is this, i know tren and test prop itll give me some fantastic gains such as fat loss, muscle mass, great feeling of well being and a very nice lean look.But after bulking up with the mutant mass and hig carb/protein foods, im unsure what kind of diet ill need to do on this tren/test prop course

Do i continue with the mutant mass thesupplementstore.co.uk/mutant_mass.htm and the high carbs/proteins aswell as high water intake, or do i go back to whey protein and different food intake.


2.
People that have done this course before, what recommendations for dosage would you advise, been told by a few people that have done it before to do

3/4 ml tren
1ml test
EOD for 10 weeks

taking nolva throughout the course
HCG every week

then PCT to finish off

all advise and comments much appreciated people

 

[tbonexl]

Nolva is a serm, not an ai. U should be on an ai. U should know all of these questions u have before even getting gear.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[adie1981]

Nolva is a serm, not an ai. U should be on an ai. U should know all of these questions u have before even getting gear.

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

ive done whinny and anavar before with the usual PCT etc

Ive had a read through that link but doesnt explain AI or SERM, id appreciate it if you could advise what you mean please mate.

 

[HulkSmashh]

first off never use nolva with tren.. bad idea.. get prami.. as far as ur.diet.. eat clean.cal gain lean.mass man.. keep carsbs early.. train n grow bro.. do tren prop eod..

 

[adie1981]

first off never use nolva with tren.. bad idea.. get prami.. as far as ur.diet.. eat clean.cal gain lean.mass man.. keep carsbs early.. train n grow bro.. do tren prop eod..

Ive got tren ace and test prop pal. well i was originally going to do sust and deca, and i got nolva,hcg,pct with it, but i changed my mind and gone for the tren and test....i assumed id take the nolva, but thanks mate appreciate your advise. So whats the best thing for me to get then for on the course of tren n test? ill be doing HCG too.

 

[HulkSmashh]

use hcg start.last two.weeks.of.cycle bro, continue.for.6weekts.. run.prami during the.cycle at.low.dose as.well.as adex if.needed.. throw.clomid in.pct as well if.u want!! always good to hsve all shit on hands rather then running.gyno with no.solution.. i.always keep.atleast 2-3 serms.and ais on.deck.before any.cycle

 

[adie1981]

use hcg start.last two.weeks.of.cycle bro, continue.for.6weekts.. run.prami during the.cycle at.low.dose as.well.as adex if.needed.. throw.clomid in.pct as well if.u want!! always good to hsve all shit on hands rather then running.gyno with no.solution.. i.always keep.atleast 2-3 serms.and ais on.deck.before any.cycle

I can get hold of one the the best AIs in letrozole which ive been advised is the best option to take during my cycle rather than nolva,parmi etc

any experience on this????

 

[HulkSmashh]

i use.lwtro.only if.gyno.flares bcz excessive.. very very strong substance...will kill e2 completely as well as sx drive.. ive used letro.when.on 2g of test a week lol

 

[adie1981]

i use.lwtro.only if.gyno.flares bcz excessive.. very very strong substance...will kill e2 completely as well as sx drive.. ive used letro.when.on 2g of test a week lol

really appreciate this advise mate, im only unsure as i was originally going to do sust and deca with nolva, the change of mind resulted in being unsure about the AIs etc

So going forward, ive got HCG, tren ace and test prop and all the required pct.
Ive read so much about people taking different things for prolactin etc. If i got aromasin to take during my cycle will this cover me for gyno prevention, and is there something else id need for different issues during the cycle.

 

[adie1981]

use hcg start.last two.weeks.of.cycle bro, continue.for.6weekts.. run.prami during the.cycle at.low.dose as.well.as adex if.needed.. throw.clomid in.pct as well if.u want!! always good to hsve all shit on hands rather then running.gyno with no.solution.. i.always keep.atleast 2-3 serms.and ais on.deck.before any.cycle

if i got aromasin or prami, when would i use the adex (is this short for something?)

 

[HulkSmashh]

if u got aromison just use that man.. that works amazing

 

[adie1981]

if u got aromison just use that man.. that works amazing

ok mate, and should by any chance i start getting any symptoms of gyno whilst using aromison what extra should i use?
im keen to keep away from prami purely because id have to inject at home and the partner would see me and ill be doomed haha.

think once you answer this im all good to go , youve been a great help

 

[tbonexl]

U don't inject prami. Have u read up on anything at all? U got a lot of rookie questions to be starting a tren cycle.

 

[Woodytwin]

You've got a great combo but, you've got many many many more hours of reading before you use it. You owe it to yourself to know exactly what you're doing before you pull the trigger.