Tren and lung damage

[Walter E Kurtz]

What are your thoughts on this? I have heard a lot of anecdotal evidence to the effect that tren causes scarring of the lungs...I would assume that if this is true, it would be caused by the content of the solvent and not the trenbelone itself. Do you guys have any thoughts on this? Have you heard similar things?

 

[Mr. Burns]

I've heard of people getting a bad cough after injecting, but I'll bump for more info.

 

[turboguy1977]

bump

 

[slobberknocker]

There's the cough, plus the fact that many guys' cardiovascular endurance goes to hell when on tren.

 

[house1]

a couple guys died not long ago , when they did autopsies there lungs were full of scars, both were very heavy tren users.

not sure if was directly from the tren but sure it did not help.

 

[SPANIARD_2003]

aw shit that sucks!

how much were they using house????

shoul a first timer for tren be concerened???

 

[rEHB]

It's true that Trenbolone has some potential toxicity on the lungs. Since it raises your PGf2a levels, and PGf2a is metabolized in the lungs, taking too much tren for too long can be fatal. One shouldn't go past 75mg ED, after what it is potentially more dangerous. Also, running it for more than about 16 weeks is not any better.

If you taken Tren for too long or at too high dosage (if you ran it for less than 8 weeks, don't worry) remember that your lung will fully recover from this, if you're not smoking.

 

[Railrunner]

I knew someone would fuck my cycle up. I finally make me a good ole' homemade batch and you guys go and make me second guess myself.

OH WELL.... CHEERS!

 

[xtinct]

One shouldn't go past 75mg ED, after what it is potentially more dangerous. Also, running it for more than about 16 weeks is not any better.

What are these numbers based on? Also, just because tren causes a rise in PGf, which is metabolized in the lungs, does not automatically mean this it causes lung damage; otherwise, just about any substance would be liver toxic.

 

[Walter E Kurtz]

What are these numbers based on? Also, just because tren causes a rise in PGf, which is metabolized in the lungs, does not automatically mean this it causes lung damage; otherwise, just about any substance would be liver toxic.

I agree...this is why I believe that the lung problems occur from kits that contain heavy concentrations of solvents. For the record, and this is not dispositive of anything, I have used Tren tablets (orally) and they did not make me cough. I have talked to others who have used Tren transdermally, and not one of them has reported the coughing fit that accompanies home-brewed injectable Tren. Thanx for your responses.

 

[slobberknocker]

Wasn't stk one of the ones that died? If memory serves he was using like 300 mg/ed. Not sure if that's right but that's what I recall.

 

[rEHB]

Of course my numbers are kinda inflated down. It would take more to get in serious trouble. However, it can hurt your lungs, which is not permanant damage, at about any dosage higher that 75mg ED (some people are less prone to it so it's more like 150mg ED for them, some people are prone to it, so it takes little to hurt their lungs and I prefer to inflate down rather than inflate high). Also don't forget that there's very little medical data on tren taking at higher than 50 mg ED injected! Parabolan studies were at 2 to 3 times 75 mg. 3 was considered a lot by negma, they even prolly did never done a single human study at this dosage. They recommand one amp per two weeks!

 

[dirty-dog]

Wasn't stk one of the ones that died? If memory serves he was using like 300 mg/ed. Not sure if that's right but that's what I recall.

yep...although his death can be attributed to other factors.

 

[needsize]

I would definitely have thought the cough would come from whatever solvents were used to break down the pellets. I've used powder based tren a few times (spectro and quest) and never had any problems with lungs.
On the other hand, I've had instant coughs after injecting a few different drugs, made me worried that I had hit a vein or something but I always aspirate

 

[jb160]

I have never gotten this fina cough does it happen to everyone or just a small percentage. I have tasted it in my mouth before though but no coughing fits.

 

[rEHB]

oh no, fina cough and lung damage are not linked... It's a different thing.

 

[xtinct]

If tren really does cause damage to the lungs, there should be a way to measure it. Any ideas what sort of test could pick this up? I don't mean a functional test like lung volume, but a blood test like what you would do to determine whether there is liver damage.