Tren and prop

This would be the 4th cycle, ran tes and deca, saw good gains and kept most, 3000 cals intake per day, very strict diet
 
31 hrs old, side effects ...really just oily skin, ran post cycle therapy (pct) of course.. I have serm and post cycle therapy (pct) for this next one too
 
Guessing you have tren a then do this.

Tren a-300mg a week every other day inject
Test p-400mg a week every other day inject
Winstrol-50mg everyday
Just draw them in the same pin.
Hopefully you have a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run throughout your cycle. I ran this cycle for the summer and I am still shredded as hell. I'm 6'3 224lbs 9-10% bf.
 
Oh man very nice!! I have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) yes sir. So more pins than a deca and test cycle huh...ouch oh well lol
 
Guessing you have tren a then do this.

Tren a-300mg a week every other day inject
Test p-400mg a week every other day inject
Winstrol-50mg everyday
Just draw them in the same pin.
Hopefully you have a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run throughout your cycle. I ran this cycle for the summer and I am still shredded as hell. I'm 6'3 224lbs 9-10% bf.

Liquid winstrol or oral?
 
how long u planning on running this cycle?

I would suggest this instead of what was recommended above:

Test prop - 50mg ed
Tren ace - 75mg ed

everyday injects for these 2 compounds is much more effective than eod... also, forget the Winstrol (winny), ur not getting ready for a national show or going for ur pro card... it's just not worth f***ing up ur joints for the rest of ur life just for a few weeks of looking better... and ur bodyfat % is too high for Winstrol (winny) to be effective...

if ur dead-set on running an oral, consider var at 50-60mg's per day for up to 6 weeks

it's really up to u in the end, but u will get some hit and miss info on any post like this... the vets will tell it like it is... take all the info in, then decide for urself

have a good one
 
Yes. Do mon, wed, fri, sun, tue, thur, sat then back to monday. M/W/F leaves too much time inbetween when you do your friday injection.

Chinawalls layout is fine, but I think 175mg of prop a week is a little too low unless your going for the more tren less test approach. Imo I think test should be higher for a first run w tren but thats just me.
 
I have run Tren a few times. For your 1st time doing it. I would def recommend doing it every other day at 75mg, or if you want to do it everyday, because it is def more effective everyday, do 50mg that is the minimum I have heard anyone doing it. My reason for doing it every other day or a low dose, is because it is a strong AS, I ran 75mg ed and had very bad sides. It was my fault, I used to run tren years ago and never had a problem and thought i would be fine. Doesn't hurt to start small because you will see gains no matter what on tren, and you can always increase it the next cycle.
As for prop, I am new to it, but I run it as Chriswho? recommended at 100mg and it works great.
Stay away from the Winstrol (winny), very overrated. I did the following last show
Test E 350mg a week - Weeks 1-10
Tren A 75mg ed - Weeks 1-14
Var 100mg ed (got a great deal on it which is why I ran it so high, def helped with joints and hardness) Weeks 6-14
Winny 50mg injections ED - Weeks 6-14
Ran Amridex and Bromo 1.25 ED when I felt sides

I def prefer Test prop to E.

Best of luck
 
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